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Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram

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And yet, Telegram is still working without a proxy or vpn.

not everywhere, unfortunately. In my location it's almost impossible to use it without VPN. It also became difficult to send files through it.

You can see here how russia has started to "burn": http://downdetector.com/status/telegram/map/

(However this might apply: https://www.xkcd.com/1138/ )

Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sad part is that it's not just authoritarian countries that are doing this, but also the democratic ones, in a foolish effort to stop "fake news" or "terrorism propaganda". And the "better" AI is going to get, the easier it will be for them to call for such censorship, especially when people like Zuckerberg say they can already "stop 99% of the terrorist posts automatically". Because that's most definitely mislea…

> The sad part is that it's not just authoritarian countries that are doing this, but also the democratic ones Which democratic country has blocked a major messaging app because it is used by political dissenters?

Not messaging apps, but the government in Switzerland of all places recently introduced a law to block online casinos that don't operate under a Swiss license. The only reason that it hasn't gone into effect yet is because enough signatures have been collected to force a referendum.

https://calvinayre.com/2018/01/19/business/swiss-voter-refer...

Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram

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A few months ago I read an article about Telegram and their related companies and individuals. [1] The article read like a mix between a nerdy James Bond story, a bad Law and Order episode, a Mexican soap opera and a Russian episode of Cribs. It was written by an ex-employee so I took it with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, the article brings up a lot of red flags and shady behavior. Combined with their (alleged) conn…

"roll-your-own-crypto" == DH-RSA-AES with GPL implementation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(service)#Encryption_...

Sure.

https://courses.csail.mit.edu/6.857/2017/project/19.pdf

https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1177.pdf

Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram

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There is no alternative to Google, Amazon, Youtube, etc. You have tiny, inferior competitors that don't even come close to 10% of the monopolist's market share. Google works very hard to trap you in their ecosystem. Once you're there, escape is almost impossible.

Yes, in large part because their service is good. You're conflating legal restriction on individual behavior with market/individual-preference constraints. "Life" in general is constrained. We are not trying to get rid of limited options (every choise is between limited options), we're trying to limit totalitarian control over individuals. That is, behaviour which is artificially constrained by imprisonment, punishme…

And the end result are tyrannical power structures that de facto exert totalitarian control. There is very little difference between government-enforced restrictions and those created by global capitalism and its monopolies.

It doesn't matter to me if my rights are restricted by legal means or by corporate hegemonies, in fact the mechanisms in play are so complex nobody can really be sure anymore.

Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram

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> I this particular case the centralization around the push service of google actually helps. No, it does not, and you even argued why. This centralization makes it harder to make the system more resilient. We need an alternative to GCM.

I'd argue that in this case the centralization helps because blocking GCM would kill all notifications for all apps. As long as they (Russia) are not willing to do that Telegram can use this as a side-channel to update their IPs for all clients. The other option would be for google to turn push notifications off selectively for Telegram and only in russia. Not sure if they can/will do that.

If Google will comply with an order to remove apps from the store in certain regions then they can certainly comply with orders to filter push messages destined for specific apps as well.

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A few months ago I read an article about Telegram and their related companies and individuals. [1] The article read like a mix between a nerdy James Bond story, a bad Law and Order episode, a Mexican soap opera and a Russian episode of Cribs. It was written by an ex-employee so I took it with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, the article brings up a lot of red flags and shady behavior. Combined with their (alleged) conn…

This reads like FUD, there are reasons for and against telegram and I won't get into them here. But truth is often stranger than fiction[0] and there are actors with something to gain from making telegram look poor. [0]: The story of Karl Koch for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Koch_(hacker) who's death was ruled a suicide, and his history is... "colourful".

If you actually care about security/privacy, why not just use Signal?

Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reads like FUD, there are reasons for and against telegram and I won't get into them here. But truth is often stranger than fiction[0] and there are actors with something to gain from making telegram look poor. [0]: The story of Karl Koch for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Koch_(hacker) who's death was ruled a suicide, and his history is... "colourful".

If you actually care about security/privacy, why not just use Signal?

Signal isn't anonymous. You need a phone number. Why did the all-knowing Moxie require this? No one has ever provided a good reason.
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