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Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#101

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ProtonMail team here. Here is our assessment about how ProtonMail compares to Gmail from the security/privacy perspective: https://protonmail.com/blog/protonmail-vs-gmail-security/

>"No tracking and logging Google records literally every action done by its users. This includes your IP address, every search that you do, which emails you open, which websites you visit, and much more. ProtonMail takes the opposite approach and by default, does not monitor or record user activity, not even IP addresses." Has this been verified by an independent third party? Also how do you determine there's an issu…

They might be using some service that tries to access an endpoint of theirs from multiple AS across the world. Not sure if Catchpoint has a Vodafone TR endpoint.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#102

To get the Tor Browser try to download it from the official Github repository: https://github.com/thetorproject/gettorbrowser Then use meek-amazon as a pluggable transport which should work.

> ... should work If it doesn't, people could get arrested and worse. Is this advice reliable enough for that level of risk?

By "should work" I meant that the Tor client would bootstrap and you would be able to use it.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#103

In just so many countries (including those many people never know are in too) the state-led war on privacy and communication freedom is getting hotter and hotter. Some countries do it openly, some manage to look liberal until you look closer. Just try to start marketing a proprietary privacy-oriented messenger app or something like that and the intelligence guys will emerge promptly at your doorstep, demanding you to…

That is why your privacy-oriented messenger app needs to be decentralized. And open-source.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#104

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> Technolgoists need to remember that tech is nothing without law. It works both ways. A law can be almost nothing without technical means to enforce it efficiently. There can be cases that make a law [almost] futile so the governments give it up. E.g. many governments tried to ban alcohol but it's so easy (yet dangerous as it can blow up and set the house on fire, especially if the cook is drunk and/or the hardware…

The technical means to enforce a law are a bunch of guys with sharp sticks.

Everyone knows that. And yet the example with alcohol still works, so it's kind of a moot point.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ProtonMail team here. Here is our assessment about how ProtonMail compares to Gmail from the security/privacy perspective: https://protonmail.com/blog/protonmail-vs-gmail-security/

>"No tracking and logging Google records literally every action done by its users. This includes your IP address, every search that you do, which emails you open, which websites you visit, and much more. ProtonMail takes the opposite approach and by default, does not monitor or record user activity, not even IP addresses." Has this been verified by an independent third party? Also how do you determine there's an issu…

> Has this been verified by an independent third party?

For one thing, it seems to have been verified by the Turkish government, seing how gmail is not blocked, and protonmail is ;)

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#107

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ProtonMail isn’t run by a data mining ad agency that works on military drones.

Not but its been around now for 17 years without a major security breach.

Except for that time when Google's data centers were completely owned by the NSA.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-i...

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#108
post #79

A totalitarian government blocking a service is a good sign they are unable to break its security and thus use it as a surveillance tool. It's a great advertisement for ProtonMail.

Unable to break its security or the service's owners are not cooperating.

Unable to break its security AND the service's owners are not cooperating maybe even

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#109

They recommend ProtonVPN. Does anyone know the legal ramifications of using a vpn with shared exit nodes? EG: A 'crack' squad of computer crime investigators in Jackson Mississippi track illegally uploaded content to a forum originating from ip address [39.21.2.32] (which is a VPN exit node). Unbeknownst to you that is YOUR exit node now. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/digital-equivalent-rum...

In these cases, a request for the identity of the account associated with $IP at $timestamp would typically receive a response such as "$IP is a shared IP address used by many different accounts simultaneously. As we do not log individual sessions at layer 4, it is impossible for us to provide you with this account information."

Literally how Private Internet Access responded to an FBI request.

Not endorsing PIA in any way, though do use the services.

Re: ProtonMail blocked by Vodafone Turkey

#110
post #29

Actually, I am not sure if it wise to circumvent that block. I mean its probably as easy as typing echo "8.8.8.8" > /etc/hosts to a root shell, but since we know that in the past people have been send to prison, just because some app on their phone requested an URL from the wrong domain, I suspect that something similarly can happen to the people who try to use Proton mail. On the other hand, if everybody stops using…

Presumably, you mean: echo 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf

I'm guessing you want to append instead of overwriting, too? :)
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