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Obesity: Drink till you drop

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Re: Obesity: Drink till you drop

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Luc wrote: post #91
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #80

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I asked for "a doggy bag for this pizza please" and got the response "will foil do?" and it did just fine. We use foil to wrap stuff for the fridge quite regularly if it doesn't fit in a tupperware (reusable rubberised plastic food storage box). Of course if it's soup or whatever you're probably not going to get it to take away. Perhaps take your own tupperware with you, I'd love to see that. Sadly I so rarely get to…

Duh, you're right, any restaurant would have aluminium foil. I bet the question would surprise them though.

Perhaps you could use surprise negotiating tactics -

You: "can I have a mop bucket to take my food home in please?"

Waiter: "perhaps if we just wrapped it in foil ...?"

Re: Obesity: Drink till you drop

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Post by roel_v »

SoftwareMaven wrote: post #97
roel_v wrote: post #73

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"...absolutely meaningless in measuring anything." This is not true, not for calories nor for lines of code. Both are not sufficient measures when used on their own, and both need context to be interpreted in, but outright dismissing any measurement of them is just as wrong as blindly relying on them. Apart from this, this study was done by professional nutritional researchers - the article may have dumbed down their…

I'm curious (please don't take this combatively, it's not meant that way) where you've seen value in measuring lines of code. What is the context that makes the measurement valuable? I ask because in the many years I've developed software or managed the development of software, I've never found it a useful metric to study because there are too many variables that impact it. However, if I'm missing something there, I'…

When you have a team of people who do the same work, if there is one person who consistently writes half as much code as the rest that could be a reason to look deepen into that person's performance. When you have for example a new project, you split up all task to be done in several-hour long chunks and you assign those chunks to all team member in a way so that the work is comparable (roughly equal parts GUI, algorithm implementation etc.), it's reasonable to expect that everybody would product about the same amount of code (or checkins or similar). If someone is 2 or 3 standard deviations from the median, that says something. Maybe it says something about that person, maybe about the way tasks are allocated, either way it says something.

Re: Obesity: Drink till you drop

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Post by tommizzle »

evanchen wrote: post #99
tommizzle wrote: post #19

While I completely agree with the gist of the article, Dr Davys counter-argument is terrible: "It is possible that the water displaced sugary drinks in the hydrated group, but this does not explain the weight loss because the calories associated with any fizzy drinks consumed by the other group had to fall within the daily limits." There is such a thing as good calories and bad calories - obviously getting your calor…

I can agree with healthy fats being good for you. But explain to me bad calories affecting weight gain more than "good" calories. That doesn't make sense to me at all. 3500 calories = 1 pound of fat, no matter the source. You can lose weight eating only McDonald's if you counted calories, but you would be: 1. Hungry all the time. 2. Look terrible.

Agree that 3500 calories = 1 pound of fat, but the point I'm raising is about how those calories affect elements such as muscle growth, which will aid weight loss. Read http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1648841

Re: Obesity: Drink till you drop

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Post by tommizzle »

evanchen wrote: post #100
sambe wrote: post #90

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Umm... just downvoting today? Is there something specifically that you disagree with? Do you feel the need to downvote when you disagree with something? - All fats are more than twice the calorific density of carbs/proteins. Disagree? - Good fats will still make you put on weight if you eat a lot of them. Disagree? - Predominate attribute used to decide "good"/"bad" is effect on heart/cardiovascular health. Disagree?…

I upvoted you. As a nutrition/fitness buff I completely agree with the comment. There is no good or bad calorie when it comes to weight loss. You eat good fats for health reasons, but as far as weight gain/loss goes, it is purely a function of calorie intake-- no matter the source.

Ok, lets try a different example:

John and Dave both eat the exact same 3 meals every day, for 30 days. When they both come home, they both do exactly the same workout. After the workout John has 50g of whey protein powder @ 110 calories, whilst Dave has 110 calories worth of coca cola (~290ml).

Now, given that protein helps muscle growth, and the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn, who loses the most fat after the 30 days?

Re: Obesity: Drink till you drop

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Post by count »

tommizzle wrote: post #72
count wrote: post #56

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This covers some of that very well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Cliff notes?

Due to the way the body processes fructose and glucose, fructose leads more directly to being 'fat', as it's stored as adipose tissue more readily/rapidly than glucose. Fructose, in HFCS and other solutions, is becoming extremely common in food where it did not used to be - this is leading to the huge increase in metabolic syndrome/etc. tl;dr: sugar makes you fat, but different sugars do it at different rates.

Re: Obesity: Drink till you drop

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Post by evanchen »

tommizzle wrote: post #104
evanchen wrote: post #100

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I upvoted you. As a nutrition/fitness buff I completely agree with the comment. There is no good or bad calorie when it comes to weight loss. You eat good fats for health reasons, but as far as weight gain/loss goes, it is purely a function of calorie intake-- no matter the source.

Ok, lets try a different example: John and Dave both eat the exact same 3 meals every day, for 30 days. When they both come home, they both do exactly the same workout. After the workout John has 50g of whey protein powder @ 110 calories, whilst Dave has 110 calories worth of coca cola (~290ml). Now, given that protein helps muscle growth, and the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn, who loses the most f…

You are mixing two variables here. If you get 100 calories from orange juice vs. coca-cola, then yes, they are the same. If both John and Dave are receiving enough protein prior to the coca cola/whey protein, then they will burn the same amount of calories as well.
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