I'm a OP3 owner and I love my phone. I don't mind that they do this -- especially if it means that they can use the data to improve the OS/fix bugs but they should clearly notify users that they do this kind of logging/data gathering so that people can make an informed decision about the device they are buying.
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Alternate idea: get rid of the smartphone. There are many benefits. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/05/smartphon...
I did this for 2 months, mainly forced to, I had my phone stolen, it was kinda nice, I read more newspapers and learnt i could send SMS messages from payphones!
Hehe, same here. It wasn't so bad actually.
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#103Holy moly O_o. Those kind of stories are keeping me back from buying any Android devices in nearest future. Somebody might say that I can flash it with clean Android ROM but that's great for people who have too much time :-)
You could make the "too much time" argument about reinstalling Windows or installing Linux when you get a device. Flashing may take some extra time, but it's not harder than normal expected device maintenance usually.
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Or just run LineageOS?
There's are still many privacy problems with Android beyond just this. Lineage has the proprietary Google Play Services (luckily they don't support SafetyNet -- one the most ridiculous breach of privacy and user's rights).
> Lineage has the proprietary Google Play Services
Lineage doesn't ship the proprietary Google Apps. It is up to the users to flash it after flashing Lineage
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#105Is it different than any other Android from a different vendor? Android, sadly, is a bit about that, grabbing data from the user in one form or another.
Google is a bit about that. Android was about crushing Microsoft's mobile strategy, ironically.
Still, it's not like Apple is really significantly better.
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#106I'm a OP3 owner and I love my phone. I don't mind that they do this -- especially if it means that they can use the data to improve the OS/fix bugs but they should clearly notify users that they do this kind of logging/data gathering so that people can make an informed decision about the device they are buying.
I'm an OP3T owner and I dislike my phone. This may just be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. It would be fine if they asked me explicitly whether I am happy for them to collect these statistics and to offer a way to disable this, but as it is right now this is just unacceptable.
The more time I spend with this phone the more I believe that Apple aligns with my interests more (plus their hardware is simply better). Sure, I'll spend a bit more money but at least I won't have Google + OnePlus collecting stats on what apps I use.
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#107I have absolutely no doubt there is some data centre in Shenzhen full of my Huawei phone metrics! I think this is the biggest issue with android phones, they are full of potential data leakages like this. Privacy is definitely a concern and a pull factor to getting an iPhone again. There is a lot to be said for a company that is focused on hardware and not on serving content to that device. Then again it's also a rea…
This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?
https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ are attempting the totally libre smartphone.
They met their $1.5 million funding goal and had some backers pitching in at 20k a pop which implies rich people / company interest
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Alternate idea: get rid of the smartphone. There are many benefits. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/05/smartphon...
I did this for 2 months, mainly forced to, I had my phone stolen, it was kinda nice, I read more newspapers and learnt i could send SMS messages from payphones!
> learnt i could send SMS messages from payphones
How did you manage this?
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Apple claims this is non-personal information: > We may collect information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where an Apple product is used so that we can better understand customer behavior and improve our products, services, and advertising. How is your occupation and exact location non-personal?
>How is your occupation and exact location non-personal? Not only, how many degrees of separation do exist between your "unique device identifier" and your identity (additionally given the restricted area provided by Zip code, area code and/or location)? What is exactly the "unique device identifier"? The IMEI, the MAC address, something else?
> What is exactly the "unique device identifier"?
It probably doesn't matter, given how easy it is to correlate/deanonymize substitute keys.
"Hashing is magic crypto pixie dust which takes personally identifiable information and makes it incomprehensible to the marketing department."[1] -Daniel J. Bernstein
[1] https://projectbullrun.org/surveillance/2015/video-2015.html...