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OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by holtalanm »

brazzledazzle wrote: post #19
nocoder wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But i dont understand this, why should I have to part with my data when I am buying a fully paid product? I know the justification being used for free services but i find it hard to accept this for a piece of hardware that I pay for.

I'm not trying to justify it by any means, but I sometimes wonder if the cost of devices are sometimes subsidized by data collection.

I think this hit the nail on the head.

Most devices are actually sold at barely over cost.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by snvzz »

I own a oneplus3 device. Since I switched to LineageOS, it's faster, the battery lasts way longer, and it doesn't even get warm on 3d games where it got burning hot before.

The devices are a mixed bag, some of them are quite decent.

OxygenOS, however, is garbage.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by jaclaz »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #58
SimplyUnknown wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sales page is nice and all, but this is the page that matters: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ . TL;DR: we collect the shit out of you and share it with third parties as we see fit. If you disagree you will get a crippled experience

Apple claims this is non-personal information: > We may collect information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where an Apple product is used so that we can better understand customer behavior and improve our products, services, and advertising. How is your occupation and exact location non-personal?

>How is your occupation and exact location non-personal?

Not only, how many degrees of separation do exist between your "unique device identifier" and your identity (additionally given the restricted area provided by Zip code, area code and/or location)?

What is exactly the "unique device identifier"? The IMEI, the MAC address, something else?

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Post by darklajid »

melvintamray wrote: post #34

The purpose of buying a OnePlus device is to get decent hardware for an okay price (I have the 3T), and then take advantage of their unlocked bootloader and the multitudes of highly functional kernels for it. Sultan's LineageOS ROMs are quite nice and even include WireGuard. If you're not immediately removing non-free OxygenOS when you receive your phone, you're most certainly already doing it wrong, data collection…

So, I owned the OnePlus One, two OnePlus 3T and currently run the OnePlus 5.

I always used CM (or LineageOS) before the 5, they never completed the first setup once before I unlocked the bootloader, thereby reset to factory and I flashed a different ROM right away. Right now I'm on the stock ROM (and affected ofc) though.

Question time:

1) Do you use your camera? I had the feeling that everytime I went from stock to CM/LineageOS I lost features and quality.

2) Why would you pick "Sultan's LineageOS ROM" (not trying to slight Sultan, whoever that might be. I'm curious) instead of going with the official LineageOS builds?

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Post by rightos »

tga wrote: post #33
Gaelan wrote: post #27

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Google is also a US company, which means you at least have a different set of intelligence agencies after you. Given those two options, I think I’d prefer to give my data to the NSA, not the Chinese government.

If you live in or travel to the US, but don't have anything to do with China, it makes more sense to prefer your data to be spied on by the Chinese, doesn't it?

It's an interesting case - they're unlikely to have any legal impact on me and my ad views are probably of very low value to them, lacking even a common language with most ads. Some people feel more comfortable with a government they voted in having their information, but ultimately one that's in some ways an adversary of your state is far less likely to have any impact on your life than one which is in your own state.

Additionally, restrictions on things like copyright aren't nearly as draconian in China - last I tried Baidu's cloud drive service they offered a torrent downloader built into the thing. Other speech restrictions are obviously very nasty and present, but as you're not a citizen there's nothing they can really do to you.

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Post by kbart »

amelius wrote: post #48
CharlesDodgson wrote: post #13

I have absolutely no doubt there is some data centre in Shenzhen full of my Huawei phone metrics! I think this is the biggest issue with android phones, they are full of potential data leakages like this. Privacy is definitely a concern and a pull factor to getting an iPhone again. There is a lot to be said for a company that is focused on hardware and not on serving content to that device. Then again it's also a rea…

This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?

"why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone?"

"totally libre PC"? All major CPU manufacturers implement hardware level backdoor we can't disable. The newest version of the most popular OS tracks your every step by default. All of these tiny chips in pretty much any modern electronic device are full of binary blobs you have no way to inspect. Maybe we live in different worlds then.

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Post by Cozumel »

rightos wrote: post #44
Gaelan wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is also a US company, which means you at least have a different set of intelligence agencies after you. Given those two options, I think I’d prefer to give my data to the NSA, not the Chinese government.

Hmm, I'm in the opposite boat - China can't extradite me or arrest me. I'd much rather my information be in the hands of Chinese intelligence agencies than American ones.

>China can't extradite me or arrest me

They can just run you over with a car on your way to work!

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Post by rtkwe »

pkrefta wrote: post #8

Holy moly O_o. Those kind of stories are keeping me back from buying any Android devices in nearest future. Somebody might say that I can flash it with clean Android ROM but that's great for people who have too much time :-)

It doesn't take that long to flash a ROM though.

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Post by ccostes »

princekolt wrote: post #59
SimplyUnknown wrote: post #41

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The sales page is nice and all, but this is the page that matters: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ . TL;DR: we collect the shit out of you and share it with third parties as we see fit. If you disagree you will get a crippled experience

Yes, but be careful: > Personal information will only be shared by Apple to provide or improve our products, services and advertising; it will not be shared with third parties for their marketing purposes. This goes in contrast with most tech companies such as Amazon and Google. However, Apple does have the horrible clause: > in the event of a reorganization, merger, or sale we may transfer any and all personal infor…

Merger may be unlikely, but reorganization seems like a fairly low bar.
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