Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is easy for Uber to fix. The surge (or the calculation of drivers) just needs to be delayed by 15mins or so. He can still turn off his app, but now he'll have to do it for more than 15mins, thus potentially losing 1 or 2 rides.
Increasing the latency with which you respond to conditions seems like it comes with real downsides. They should just figure out a way to punish this practice.
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Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is easy for Uber to fix. The surge (or the calculation of drivers) just needs to be delayed by 15mins or so. He can still turn off his app, but now he'll have to do it for more than 15mins, thus potentially losing 1 or 2 rides.
Uber presumably takes a fixed cut of the fare, so they have at least some incentive to look the other way during surge collusion. If the drivers do it simultaneously to both Lyft and Uber then both companies will be happy to see this going on.
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#103People game the system. Always. Have learned that for years when it comes to safety systems. Even uneducated people become very intelligent when it comes to gaming the system to their advantage. It is always a cat and rat game between technical adjustments and when people find a way to game the system again.
This. People learned the phone company would refund any Denied All Knowledge of a long distance call. Call up, get a credit. Then phone company said you cant DAK calls 2 months in a row: so customers called in every other month. Then, they eliminated operator handled calls for small bills. Call in, get an IVR, get a credit. Phone company caught on and limited credits to $7 per month, every other month. Customers star…
Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says
#104This sounds like a fix to one of my major complaints about Uber. The prices are too low. I like cheap rides, but I also like knowing that the people who are giving me rides (and providing me services, selling me goods, making those goods, etc) are making living wages.
And, to some level - This is collective bargaining. This is precisely what Unionists want, without all of the mess involved in actual unions. The drivers are collectively demanding higher wages, and Uber is responding.
On the other hand: There's a good reason we're seeing this pushback. Uber is a shitty, predatory company, and has relentlessly worked to drive down driver wages well beyond sustainable rates. (It's also a shitty company to it's full time employees, to which I will attest.)
Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is easy for Uber to fix. The surge (or the calculation of drivers) just needs to be delayed by 15mins or so. He can still turn off his app, but now he'll have to do it for more than 15mins, thus potentially losing 1 or 2 rides.
Uber presumably takes a fixed cut of the fare, so they have at least some incentive to look the other way during surge collusion. If the drivers do it simultaneously to both Lyft and Uber then both companies will be happy to see this going on.
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#106I'm somewhat surprised no app has popped up to be the driver private peer to peer network. For chat, news, stats, and automating things like this.
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#107Don't need to do much research. Just read the Uber driver fora. They talk about it openly. Still, even with a huge surge, Uber is 1/2 to 1/10th the price of a cab in my city.
> Still, even with a huge surge, Uber is 1/2 to 1/10th the price of a cab in my city. This summarizes why the model would continue to work. It's similar to low-cost airlines: most of us hate them, but most of us still use them.
Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says
#108edit: This is obviously not in high uber/lyft density zone like a downtown SF where one can assume most of the rides endup being in the 2 mile radius.
Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says
#109I use Uber pass fairly regular on my commute to work. One other minor unrelated thing I have seen is if the commute is within On talking to couple of drivers on a few occasions they confessed that they do this to filter out folks asking for lower mile rides!! edit: This is obviously not in high uber/lyft density zone like a downtown SF where one can assume most of the rides endup being in the 2 mile radius.
I drove Uber for a month or so, and use to love short rides because:
1. I would stay in the region of my choice
2. They would help me reach my bonus # of rides targets
Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says
#110I use Uber pass fairly regular on my commute to work. One other minor unrelated thing I have seen is if the commute is within On talking to couple of drivers on a few occasions they confessed that they do this to filter out folks asking for lower mile rides!! edit: This is obviously not in high uber/lyft density zone like a downtown SF where one can assume most of the rides endup being in the 2 mile radius.