Survey has a particular flaw: it lists ".NET Core" technology, but it's a vaporware (e.g. not a real thing). It should be corrected to ".NET".
Why is not a real thing? I know people using it in production.
Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results 2017
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#102Shows you effects of the echo chamber you are in, as I was very surprised that Scala was only at 3.6%, and beaten by Go at 4.3 and Swift at 6.5% in the programming language section. The self-selection of people I follow on Twitter, the meetups and conferences I attend, the choice of companies and colleagues I have worked with, etc, probably just reinforce my blinkered echo chamber. This is probably true for many Hask…
We all tend to know our circles, but ignore most of what is outside of it. Myself when I was a C# developer, could tell of many companies using .NET in my city, but couldn't tell you a single company using Java, even though there was a lot of them (probably more than companies using C#). If I had to guess the usage of newer languages like Rust, Go, etc., I'd probably underestimate it tremendously, just because I'm not part of that ecosystem (not looking at job postings, not participating in conferences, not knowing popular open-source frameworks).
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#104I can't find the actual questions, so if anyone can reference them it may help to understand the answers more.
The "platform" part is at best ambiguous and at worst white noise.
It covers mobile & desktop OS's, "cloud" providers - both IaaS like AWS/Azure & SaaS like Salesforce - hardware platforms like Raspberry Pi and Arduino, buzzwords like "Serverless" and mainframe.
Apparently all of those things represent a "platform" that is in some way comparable, but Linux, BSD and Windows servers do not.
The "most popular languages" shows Javascript as the most popular with Sysadmin/DevOps.
I'm going to just assume the people answering subscript to the idea that "DevOps === Developers Doing Ops" (aka NoOps). I'm pretty confident actual Sysadmins don't use/prefer Javascript more than anything else.
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#105Is gender and ethnic background of developers relevant?
Of course it is. Homogeneity is dangerous for an ecosystem and even if it weren't, not all apps, websites, products of code are consumed by straight white guys living on the US coasts. A mix of perspectives is a healthy thing.
I like to think that since white guys are generally the most universally hated group by other race\gender combo's, white guys just dont really care who you are as long as you get the job done. Thats why they have the lowest interest in diversity.
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#106> "We estimate that 16.8 million of these people are professional developers and university-level students." I wonder if it is relatively safe to infer from this that there are ~16.8 million developers in the world? Are there developers who never visit stackoverflow? I'd expect that number to be higher, even though 16.8M is a lot. Also if you take all "years since learning to code" up to "9-10", they add up to 50.6%,…
> which means that the developer population doubles every ~10 years
Or that people stop being developers with time. Or older people use stack overflow less.
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#107I can't find the actual questions, so if anyone can reference them it may help to understand the answers more. The "platform" part is at best ambiguous and at worst white noise. It covers mobile & desktop OS's, "cloud" providers - both IaaS like AWS/Azure & SaaS like Salesforce - hardware platforms like Raspberry Pi and Arduino, buzzwords like "Serverless" and mainframe. Apparently all of those things represent a "pl…
I'm pretty confident actual Sysadmins don't use/prefer Javascript more than anything else.
I think that question was multiple choice. My guess is that most sysadmins use their favorite language and a bit of JavaScript when they have to, and since they all have different favorite languages javascript ends up 'winning'
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#109It would have been nice to see more of the long tail of Years Since Learning to Code and Years Coding Professionally. Wonder why they chose to not ask for the distribution after 20 years?
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#110Survey has a particular flaw: it lists ".NET Core" technology, but it's a vaporware (e.g. not a real thing). It should be corrected to ".NET".
In what way is .NET Core "vaporware"? It's a very real thing that is documented and downloadable from here: