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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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People don't always act rationally, and some people perceive the US to be worse than China.

> some people perceive the US to be worse than China. Those people are dangerously ignorant.

While I wouldn't say that the US is worse than China, I think your statement is just as dangerous (possibly more).

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If you're complaining about the price of Vancouver real estate, it hardly makes sense in this context where San Francisco is the alternative.

But a senior engineer in Vancouver makes less than a coffee-fetching intern in SF.

In a scenario where more YC companies set up shop in Vancouver, and US investors follow to bet on the next Slack up here, then this will naturally change as a function of supply/demand.

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Wow. We often wonder how the Bay Area would be unseated as startup capital of the world. Maybe it'll be the US's immigration problem.

Just because a few people from outside the US are worried about visa issues before applying to an incubator doesn't spell the end of Silicon Valley. The money, talent, and infrastructure to support startups (and large tech companies for that matter) aren't going away anytime soon and likely wouldn't go away even if we completely completely halted green card holders. Not that I would ever advocate something like that.

> aren't going away anytime soon

Reading the news, I would not bet too much money on that either.

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Comment Rating: 1/10: Just another Political post > The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. Awesome! I was curious about hearing more about this. > If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, You're making a claim that is fairly recent an…

> Why did you feel that it was necessary to inject political commentary into this? Because politics, especially what's happening now, affects all of our lives? Hacker News talks about politics all the time, just look at Bitcoin or Snowden threads.

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People don't always act rationally, and some people perceive the US to be worse than China.

> some people perceive the US to be worse than China. Those people are dangerously ignorant.

Why do you say that? I did not downvote you.

And would be interested real and objective criteria for assessing which country is "worse" ethically or "worse" by some criteria you select.

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The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, you can bet that things will reverse quickly. Good bye, world leading startups, nobel prizes, top universities, etc. These things can happen faster than o…

Which particular fascist regimes do you have in mind? In news from Spain, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

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Who is having trouble getting a Visa exactly? Just curious, trying to separate fact from hysteria

> Who is having trouble getting a Visa exactly? Just curious, trying to separate fact from hysteria

Anyone, even US citizens, who does not want ICE/CBP snooping on his/her IT equipment, cellphones or social media accounts.

Certainly I (born German/Croatian, living in Germany) might be able to land myself a nice shiny job in the US IT industry but no way I'm ever crossing your border as long as such outrageous privacy violations are legal.

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If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace...the best thing countries like China could do right now is heavily fund things such as foreign PhD students. Wait, so you're saying everyone is leaving fascist USA, but China will be the beneficiary of that?

Perhaps, if funding to research is cut in the US via Trump policies (or even remains small as is currently the case) and China jumps on this opportunity to snatch the world's best talent, the question for brilliant young students will be China, a fascist regime where you are funded, or the US, a slightly less fascist regime where you are not funded and face hate crime, discrimination, and constant threats to your abi…

So why do so many Chinese students chose to come to the US for college? Do they not know that China is better?

To call the US a slightly less fascist regime than China is wrong. Go read up on human rights violations in China some time.

Other areas of concern include the lack of legal recognition of human rights and the lack of an independent judiciary, rule of law, and due process. Further issues raised in regard to human rights include the severe lack of worker's rights (in particular the hukou system which restricts migrant labourers' freedom of movement), the absence of independent labour unions (which have since been changing[3]), and allegations of discrimination against rural workers and ethnic minorities, as well as the lack of religious freedom – rights groups have highlighted repression of the Christian,[4][5][6][7][8][9] Tibetan Buddhist, and Falun Gong religious groups. Some Chinese activist groups are trying to expand these freedoms, including Human Rights in China, Chinese Human Rights Defenders, and the China Human Rights Lawyers Concern Group. Chinese human rights attorneys who take on cases related to these issues, however, often face harassment, disbarment, and arrest.[10][11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China

The gap between the US and China in most measures of freedom and business rights is absolutely massive and isn't going to shift because six Muslim countries have restricted immigration. Maybe see how China treats Muslims in the western part of the country?

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Also a homicide rate of 2/100k vs 40 might be indicative of other problems one city may have that the other doesn't.

What a great opportunity to make the world a better place.

How would hosting it in Tijuana reduce their homicide rate?

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Comment Rating: 1/10: Just another Political post > The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. Awesome! I was curious about hearing more about this. > If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, You're making a claim that is fairly recent an…

If you are curious to hear more about this, you can read the following articles, for a start: http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/23/movies/european-minds-who-... (and the related documentary) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/1991-11-03/the-sovie... >If something is going on at the moment that is relevant, name the specific thing. Trying to blame the whole group now is just silly pandering. Huh yes, how about the c…

> Huh yes, how about the current executive order ban on muslim countries, and the general eagerness of the current administration to purge the US of many kinds of immigrants who are there completely legally? Many of my Iranian coworkers - most with PhDs from US universities - are affected by this. Many academic conferences I participate in are experiencing problems because organizers or speakers didn't get visas. Several professors are telling me they had to pass on promising applicants due to visa concerns. Anyone in an academic/research environment right now will tell you these things.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. That's relevant, doesn't pander.

>If you are curious to hear more about this, you can read the following articles, for a start:http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/23/movies/european-minds-who-....

This is great, it also can be blamed on the government then.. because it's hindsight.. you've seen the lasting effects of what happened.

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