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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by monksy »

untog wrote: post #79
monksy wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comment Rating: 1/10: Just another Political post > The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. Awesome! I was curious about hearing more about this. > If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, You're making a claim that is fairly recent an…

> Why did you feel that it was necessary to inject political commentary into this? The notion that we can remove politics from all the discussions we have is just silly. Especially when we're discussing immigration, something controlled by the governments we elect and the politicians that represent us. I'm not arguing that the OP's post was great and insightful ("fascist" is indeed not helpful to use without elaborat…

Never said to remove politics from the discussion. The point that you started with was how the technical topic had influence from politics (from another time).

My point, don't make blanket inflammatory accusations of a current political party that just came into "rule" [I'm letting you get away with that claim] in the last two months). If you're going to interpolate, make a claim to the political action that occurred and what you feel is going to happen.

Right now we're seeing a lot of changes, to make a bold statement there is a direct cause is reaching. (It's because of the "fascist party" we have.. they ran under the conservative/right-party) To blanketly label the party/group of people "in power" that corresponds to the labels being thrown at it leads me to believe that your comment was motivated to just repeat the same catchphrases that are pushed in the left/liberal media.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by wfo »

monksy wrote: post #60
GuiA wrote: post #40

The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, you can bet that things will reverse quickly. Good bye, world leading startups, nobel prizes, top universities, etc. These things can happen faster than o…

Comment Rating: 1/10: Just another Political post > The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. Awesome! I was curious about hearing more about this. > If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, You're making a claim that is fairly recent an…

Pretending you can ignore politics in any discussion other than a technical seminar about compiler optimization is in itself a political position: you are supporting the people who can afford to ignore politics at the expense of those who can't, endorsing the status quo whatever that happens to be.

This post is about people who are worried about being banned/being banned from the country who previously could enter and how YC is trying to help them. It's an explicitly political post. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by monksy »

and0 wrote: post #86
monksy wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comment Rating: 1/10: Just another Political post > The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. Awesome! I was curious about hearing more about this. > If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, You're making a claim that is fairly recent an…

How can we talk about recent shifts in SV due to immigration issues without being political? Sorry that people can't frame their interpretations of Trump's policies to make you comfortable. They very clearly echo past fascist regimes. That's Trump & co's fault.

Talk about directly the issues and what has happened, and what you think is going to happen (give reason, don't just emote out with fear).

Don't just blanketly throw the entire group under the bus.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by pizzetta »

clamprecht wrote: post #4

Wow. We often wonder how the Bay Area would be unseated as startup capital of the world. Maybe it'll be the US's immigration problem.

Does that not require that other major nations loosen their policies in conjunction with this, in addition to cultural aspects of self-promotion as well as failure and access to *capital.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by dang »

lhnz wrote: post #87
dang wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's unduly personal. Please don't comment like that here. We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13830917 and marked it off-topic.

I am sorry to say something personal but it is a toxic style of communicating with people and reoccuring.

I appreciate the reply and admit "unduly" is occasionally a fine line, but on HN we have to err on the side of not allowing it because of the compounding effects. To get it right you really have to be scrupulous and the hivemind doesn't do scrupulosity, it does pile-ons.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by GuiA »

monksy wrote: post #60
GuiA wrote: post #40

The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, you can bet that things will reverse quickly. Good bye, world leading startups, nobel prizes, top universities, etc. These things can happen faster than o…

Comment Rating: 1/10: Just another Political post > The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. Awesome! I was curious about hearing more about this. > If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, You're making a claim that is fairly recent an…

If you are curious to hear more about this, you can read the following articles, for a start:

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/23/movies/european-minds-who-...

(and the related documentary)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/1991-11-03/the-sovie...

>If something is going on at the moment that is relevant, name the specific thing. Trying to blame the whole group now is just silly pandering.

Huh yes, how about the current executive order ban on muslim countries, and the general eagerness of the current administration to purge the US of many kinds of immigrants who are there completely legally? Many of my Iranian coworkers - most with PhDs from US universities - are affected by this. Many academic conferences I participate in are experiencing problems because organizers or speakers didn't get visas. Several professors are telling me they had to pass on promising applicants due to visa concerns. Anyone in an academic/research environment right now will tell you these things.

> Why did you feel that it was necessary to inject political commentary into this? I'm really tired of hearing armchair politicians or regurgitation of political pundits. This is hacker news not r/Politics.

And I'm tired of techies thinking politics can be refactored into its neat own class, properly abstracted out of any other activity they take part in. Everything is inherently political, and aspiring to "change the world" through your startup or work is obviously so.

Regarding your unhappiness with me calling the current regime fascist... well, when the president in power has insinuated the assassination of his opponents, encouraged his supporters to engage in violence, been spinning outlandish lies about the former president wiretapping him, etc, well I call that fascism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by aaron-lebo »

GuiA wrote: post #40

The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, you can bet that things will reverse quickly. Good bye, world leading startups, nobel prizes, top universities, etc. These things can happen faster than o…

Where are people gonna go?

There's no evidence that China wants to open up like that.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by jcranmer »

muninn_ wrote: post #63
asadlionpk wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean?

Are you familiar with the Middle East?

You're being a bit broad with your brush strokes there. The United Arab Emirates (of which Dubai is one) has a female labor force participation rate of ~46%. While that is low compared to the ~50-60% you'd see in most OECD countries, it's not that far off places like Poland (48%) and better than, say, Mexico (45%). It's definitely not Iran (15%) or Saudi Arabia (20%).
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