It is an interesting environment but for what ever reason I ended up back in VIM (at school it was Emacs or FINE, at home 'MicroEMACS' and at Sun it was 'vi') Now vim is my go to editor but I'm not as fast as some folks who have melded well with either EMACS or VIM.
EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
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Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#12Am I reading this right? You used to... not be able to see your code verbatim as you were editing it? My god, that sounds horrible.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#13Am I reading this right? You used to... not be able to see your code verbatim as you were editing it? My god, that sounds horrible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ASR-33_at_CHM.agr.jpg
For example, the standard editor on early Unix was 'ed'. It is available on most modern *nix systems, if you care to try it :). Bill Joy later modified ed to be a display editor, or 'vi'sual editor; so if you have you have used Vi, it shouldn't be too unfamiliar.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#14Am I reading this right? You used to... not be able to see your code verbatim as you were editing it? My god, that sounds horrible.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#15Am I reading this right? You used to... not be able to see your code verbatim as you were editing it? My god, that sounds horrible.
Subsequently he gave the code to Bill Joy who turned it into ex and then vi and at some point even Ken Thompson probably used it.
"Our" history (as coders) is short and surprisingly oral, but still has gods in it and messengers from the gods bringing down the fruits of their wisdom.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#16I actually found an earlier version of this paper in my teachers room (published 1979). It's AI Memo 519 (the linked paper is 591A) and I can't find a reference to this anywhere. I even emailed Stallman and he couldn't remember when it was first published (he thought that it was published in 1981 first to). I uploaded it to archive.org: https://archive.org/details/MITAIMemo519 My teacher suspects he got it from a guy…
ftp://publications.ai.mit.edu/ai-publications/pdf/AIM-519A.pdf
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#17Am I reading this right? You used to... not be able to see your code verbatim as you were editing it? My god, that sounds horrible.
Sure you could. You just used pencil and paper.
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
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#19This is nice to see a relatively brief introduction to the essential features. Steve Yegge wrote: "Go look over Paul Nordstrom's shoulder while he works sometime, if you don't believe me. It's a real eye-opener for someone who's used Visual Blub .NET-like IDEs their whole career." Does anyone know of any public video of Mr. Nordstrom using emacs, or can someone who knows him request one? [edit: properly attribute the…
Re: EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor (1981)
#20I just had this thought, what if Linus came in or HMS or someone else kinda already famous did a "Show HN: I made a extensible editor called emacs" or "Show HN: I made a posix compatible kernel" Would lead to some interesting discussions I think if they were active in the comments.