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Re: Neovim

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Post by krick »

swdunlop wrote: post #6
krick wrote: post #3

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand I've been thinking on it for quite a long time already, newer shinier Vim is something I secretly wish for. On the other hand I found it quite problematic. The main problem of Vim is Vimscript. So "newer shinier Vim" is Vim with real programming language instead of vimscript. But it's impossible to remove Vimscript: it won't be Vim anymore. It affects not only scrip…

"Hm, maybe better to write an open-source version of Sublime Text?" You mean, like Lime? https://github.com/limetext/lime

Oh, I didn't know about that one. Now that seems interesting! Thanks for sharing.

Re: Neovim

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Post by fournm »

Ambitious. Best of luck to them--I've considered trying to do a full port to a language like Go or Rust, but I've never quite had the time (or self-hatred to try and handle quite so many corner cases as what I've seen in vim's code).

Re: Neovim

#13

Post by thetxef »

bronson wrote: post #4

It sounds like they have no interest in getting this stuff pushed back upstream? There's no mention of it on the home page. At this point it smells kind of Emacs/XEmacsish. Hope they can rally immense development effort.

the author has posted at least two different patches to vim dev google group. I dont think Bram even commented in any of them. Many others did.

Re: Neovim

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Post by tambourine_man »

krick wrote: post #3

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand I've been thinking on it for quite a long time already, newer shinier Vim is something I secretly wish for. On the other hand I found it quite problematic. The main problem of Vim is Vimscript. So "newer shinier Vim" is Vim with real programming language instead of vimscript. But it's impossible to remove Vimscript: it won't be Vim anymore. It affects not only scrip…

Neo Vi Improved. We suck at naming things :)

Yeah, I have mixed feelings as well. I love my Vim, don't touch it. And yet, vimscript does suck and better separation from core and UI could allow for very interesting things. Also, no one really cares about Vi compatibility anymore and cleaning the scary old C code base could make it much more accessible.

I guess we'll see.

Re: Neovim

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Post by segphault »

As someone who uses Vim to write articles and documentation in addition to code, I'd really love to see a richer UI with proper support for features like variable-width fonts.

It looks like the developer behind this refactoring effort has some really good ideas for decoupling the Vim engine from the user interface layer. It'd be great if somebody could build a really good cross-platform Qt-based UI on top.

Re: Neovim

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Post by tarruda »

bronson wrote: post #4

It sounds like they have no interest in getting this stuff pushed back upstream? There's no mention of it on the home page. At this point it smells kind of Emacs/XEmacsish. Hope they can rally immense development effort.

As the author I would like to contribute changes back, search vim_dev mailing list for 'message loop' and 'job control' and you will find two patches I've sent that werent even commented by Bram.

This fork changes so much that its impossible that it will ever be accepted

Re: Neovim

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Post by tarruda »

thomc wrote: post #5

A brave effort. Given your commit history, documented plan and great idea I was happy to back it [1] and hope you succeed. Best of luck :) [1]: https://www.bountysource.com/fundraisers/539-neovim-first-it...

I greatly appreciate it, thanks :)

Re: Neovim

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Post by tarruda »

krick wrote: post #3

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand I've been thinking on it for quite a long time already, newer shinier Vim is something I secretly wish for. On the other hand I found it quite problematic. The main problem of Vim is Vimscript. So "newer shinier Vim" is Vim with real programming language instead of vimscript. But it's impossible to remove Vimscript: it won't be Vim anymore. It affects not only scrip…

I am enthusiastic about it, thats why I started the fundraiser. To finish the first iteration fast I need to put my freelance work to a halt.
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