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Re: Neovim

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Post by limsup »

Cool project! It'd be nice if the build system was converted to GYP, so that it integrated well with libuv.

Re: Neovim

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Post by krick »

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand I've been thinking on it for quite a long time already, newer shinier Vim is something I secretly wish for. On the other hand I found it quite problematic. The main problem of Vim is Vimscript. So "newer shinier Vim" is Vim with real programming language instead of vimscript. But it's impossible to remove Vimscript: it won't be Vim anymore. It affects not only scripting itself, but also how we interact with it in command mode, not to say about plugins we have already.

And here we have a project. Virtually nothing is done, previous commit was 20 days ago, and the last commit is adding the fundraiser link an hour ago. I mean, the author doesn't seem to be fanatically enthusiastic. And plans are quite generous. Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but I have some bad feeling about that. I'm thinking instead of "Hm, maybe better to write an open-source version of Sublime Text?".

Re: Neovim

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Post by bronson »

It sounds like they have no interest in getting this stuff pushed back upstream? There's no mention of it on the home page.

At this point it smells kind of Emacs/XEmacsish. Hope they can rally immense development effort.

Re: Neovim

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Post by swdunlop »

krick wrote: post #3

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand I've been thinking on it for quite a long time already, newer shinier Vim is something I secretly wish for. On the other hand I found it quite problematic. The main problem of Vim is Vimscript. So "newer shinier Vim" is Vim with real programming language instead of vimscript. But it's impossible to remove Vimscript: it won't be Vim anymore. It affects not only scrip…

"Hm, maybe better to write an open-source version of Sublime Text?" You mean, like Lime?

https://github.com/limetext/lime

Re: Neovim

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krick wrote: post #3

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand I've been thinking on it for quite a long time already, newer shinier Vim is something I secretly wish for. On the other hand I found it quite problematic. The main problem of Vim is Vimscript. So "newer shinier Vim" is Vim with real programming language instead of vimscript. But it's impossible to remove Vimscript: it won't be Vim anymore. It affects not only scrip…

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Re: Neovim

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Post by patrickdavey »

bronson wrote: post #4

It sounds like they have no interest in getting this stuff pushed back upstream? There's no mention of it on the home page. At this point it smells kind of Emacs/XEmacsish. Hope they can rally immense development effort.

Yes, I was surprised by this, and no mention of the project on vim.org ...

Re: Neovim

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Post by coyotebush »

> Migrate to a cmake-based build

> Legacy support and compile-time features

> Platform-specific code

Sounds like well-justified cleanup, although it's possible this project is underestimating the usefulness of feature selection.

> New plugin architecture

> New GUI architecture

Now that's cool and ambitious.

I wonder whether Bram has an opinion on this?

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