I don't see any mention of moonlight? Has support for it been completely dropped? Is anyone else maintaining it ?
As goes Silverlight, so does Moonlight...
Mono 3.2
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Re: Mono 3.2
#12I like C# and I'm impressed with Mono but there is just something not right. It might be irrational but knowing that Microsoft's DNA is everywhere makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm also not happy that Linux is a second class citizen - there is no Xamarin Studio for Linux, the latest version of MonoDevelop is not packaged for Linux, and the latest version of Mono 3.2 is only packaged for Mac as an easy download. The id…
Considering how much the Linux community showed the middle finger to the Mono guys I'm surprised there is any support left.
Re: Mono 3.2
#13> "Google contributed ports of NaCl for ARM and Amd64." So, Mono/C# in Chrome? If NaCl/PNaCl becomes available outside the Chrome App Store, that could be pretty exciting -- Mono does an excellent job with AOT performance and mobile-scale memory utilization.
Mono has been running in Chrome for a while. Bastion's NaCl version is Mono based.
Re: Mono 3.2
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes thats how I feel. .Net has some great languages C#, F# etc but I like to feel platform independent.
How is C# on Mono, a finger of Microsoft?
I think the issue is that the support for .NET libraries on Mono is trailing what is delivered with the MSFT tools. That said, Mono has been doing a generally good job trying to keep up and has very visible api pages about what is/isn't supported and how people can contribute.
Re: Mono 3.2
#15I don't see any mention of moonlight? Has support for it been completely dropped? Is anyone else maintaining it ?
As goes Silverlight, so does Moonlight...
Silverlight though did not have a new version released in 2 years but there updates even few weeks ago. I see video platforms only on silverlight.
Re: Mono 3.2
#16I like C# and I'm impressed with Mono but there is just something not right. It might be irrational but knowing that Microsoft's DNA is everywhere makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm also not happy that Linux is a second class citizen - there is no Xamarin Studio for Linux, the latest version of MonoDevelop is not packaged for Linux, and the latest version of Mono 3.2 is only packaged for Mac as an easy download. The id…
Considering how much the Linux community showed the middle finger to the Mono guys I'm surprised there is any support left.
That's a wild generalization which I don't think it's true. The "Linux community" you speak of is a loud minority of mentally deranged folks.
Mono never succeeded on Linux because it always felt like a second-class citizen on the desktop and it's basically useless for server-side apps, an area where the Linux ecosystem shines. Python is popular on Linux because Python can be used for everything, including desktop apps, including server-side, including Gimp plugins. Out of all C/C++ alternatives, Python has the best bindings available. Java is also popular amongst Linux folks, because Java has always been first-class on Unix.
If anything, it's Microsoft's fault. They were late in acknowledging Mono, they were late in giving a patents grant for the ECMA standards, they are always late in updating those ECMA standards (e.g. Async is not in the current version), they failed to make .NET cross-platform, they failed in fostering an open-source .NET community, they failed at PR and they continually disappoint by attacking Android or other projects with patents infringement threats (did you know that Microsoft makes more money from patents licensing to Android than from Windows Phone?)
Re: Mono 3.2
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
As goes Silverlight, so does Moonlight...
Silverlight though did not have a new version released in 2 years but there updates even few weeks ago. I see video platforms only on silverlight.
For better or worse, the DRM part won't make it's way to Mono, so Moonlight is sort of useless for that.
Re: Mono 3.2
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
As goes Silverlight, so does Moonlight...
Silverlight though did not have a new version released in 2 years but there updates even few weeks ago. I see video platforms only on silverlight.
yes. im my experience, no current silverlight broadcast works on moonlight, always fails with a black screen and 'you need a newer version' message.
Re: Mono 3.2
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes thats how I feel. .Net has some great languages C#, F# etc but I like to feel platform independent.
How is Mono not platform independent? It doesn't have a lot of .net features from Windows like windows forms, but it has the entire C# language and their own implementations of xna, etc. The only concern I would have is that Microsoft might try to crush Xamarin at some point, but I wouldn't count that likely, Mono is their ticket to keep .net from looking like anti-competitive platform lock in.
> How is Mono not platform independent?
It isn't. Try developing apps with it. Then compare it with Java or Python. You'll see the light eventually.
> The only concern I would have is that Microsoft might try to crush Xamarin at some point, but I wouldn't count that likely
Microsoft is a beast. They are currently making more money from patents licensing for Android than they are from Windows Phone. Wishful thinking has no place in this world.
That doesn't mean that Mono is any more of a risk than the alternatives. Oracle sued Google for Java, right?
Re: Mono 3.2
#20I like C# and I'm impressed with Mono but there is just something not right. It might be irrational but knowing that Microsoft's DNA is everywhere makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm also not happy that Linux is a second class citizen - there is no Xamarin Studio for Linux, the latest version of MonoDevelop is not packaged for Linux, and the latest version of Mono 3.2 is only packaged for Mac as an easy download. The id…
I wish someone would package this version of Mono for Debian Testing (or at least Sid). I am starting to love building things from source, but having no official documentation on how to build Mono/MonoDevelop from source the correct way really is tiring.
(Installing pango/gtk etc from source really takes the juice out of you.)