Mono 3.2

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Post by pmattos » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 2:34 AM UTC

Mono 3.2
mono-project.com

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by yapcguy » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:33 AM UTC

I like C# and I'm impressed with Mono but there is just something not right. It might be irrational but knowing that Microsoft's DNA is everywhere makes me feel uncomfortable.

I'm also not happy that Linux is a second class citizen - there is no Xamarin Studio for Linux, the latest version of MonoDevelop is not packaged for Linux, and the latest version of Mono 3.2 is only packaged for Mac as an easy download.

The idea of writing most of my application logic in C# and reusing it on desktop and mobile platforms is appealing, but I don't want to use proprietary libraries like Xamarin.iOS and Xamarin.Android, while on the desktop I don't know how well supported GTK# and Qyoto are.

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by pbsdp » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:34 AM UTC

> "Google contributed ports of NaCl for ARM and Amd64."

So, Mono/C# in Chrome? If NaCl/PNaCl becomes available outside the Chrome App Store, that could be pretty exciting -- Mono does an excellent job with AOT performance and mobile-scale memory utilization.

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by UK-AL » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:38 AM UTC

yapcguy wrote: post #2

I like C# and I'm impressed with Mono but there is just something not right. It might be irrational but knowing that Microsoft's DNA is everywhere makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm also not happy that Linux is a second class citizen - there is no Xamarin Studio for Linux, the latest version of MonoDevelop is not packaged for Linux, and the latest version of Mono 3.2 is only packaged for Mac as an easy download. The id…

Yes thats how I feel. .Net has some great languages C#, F# etc but I like to feel platform independent.

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by zanny » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:41 AM UTC

UK-AL wrote: post #4

yapcguy wrote: post #2

I like C# and I'm impressed with Mono but there is just something not right. It might be irrational but knowing that Microsoft's DNA is everywhere makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm also not happy that Linux is a second class citizen - there is no Xamarin Studio for Linux, the latest version of MonoDevelop is not packaged for Linux, and the latest version of Mono 3.2 is only packaged for Mac as an easy download. The id…

Yes thats how I feel. .Net has some great languages C#, F# etc but I like to feel platform independent.

How is Mono not platform independent? It doesn't have a lot of .net features from Windows like windows forms, but it has the entire C# language and their own implementations of xna, etc.

The only concern I would have is that Microsoft might try to crush Xamarin at some point, but I wouldn't count that likely, Mono is their ticket to keep .net from looking like anti-competitive platform lock in.

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by Zergy » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:43 AM UTC

UK-AL wrote: post #4

yapcguy wrote: post #2

I like C# and I'm impressed with Mono but there is just something not right. It might be irrational but knowing that Microsoft's DNA is everywhere makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm also not happy that Linux is a second class citizen - there is no Xamarin Studio for Linux, the latest version of MonoDevelop is not packaged for Linux, and the latest version of Mono 3.2 is only packaged for Mac as an easy download. The id…

Yes thats how I feel. .Net has some great languages C#, F# etc but I like to feel platform independent.

How is C# on Mono, a finger of Microsoft?

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by UK-AL » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:47 AM UTC

zanny wrote: post #5

UK-AL wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes thats how I feel. .Net has some great languages C#, F# etc but I like to feel platform independent.

How is Mono not platform independent? It doesn't have a lot of .net features from Windows like windows forms, but it has the entire C# language and their own implementations of xna, etc. The only concern I would have is that Microsoft might try to crush Xamarin at some point, but I wouldn't count that likely, Mono is their ticket to keep .net from looking like anti-competitive platform lock in.

Because the all the main frameworks asp.net MVC, entity framework tend to be a bit flaky using mono. The up to date versions may not work.

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by viyyer » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:59 AM UTC

I don't see any mention of moonlight? Has support for it been completely dropped? Is anyone else maintaining it ?

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by plorkyeran » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 4:07 AM UTC

viyyer wrote: post #8

I don't see any mention of moonlight? Has support for it been completely dropped? Is anyone else maintaining it ?

Moonlight's been dead for a while: http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/moonlight-list/2011-Decemb...

Re: Mono 3.2

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Post by jimmcslim » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 4:21 AM UTC

pbsdp wrote: post #3

> "Google contributed ports of NaCl for ARM and Amd64." So, Mono/C# in Chrome? If NaCl/PNaCl becomes available outside the Chrome App Store, that could be pretty exciting -- Mono does an excellent job with AOT performance and mobile-scale memory utilization.

It would be great to hear more about this, are there any 'Hello World' examples? I assume the API's that NaCl-exposed have a corresponding set of C# interfaces? How does one write to the browser window, get user input, network I/O, etc?