In contrast, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5083564 describes a 2004 study that gives 130m as the limit, and claims a world record of 125m. Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_(tree) is 115m. However, this theory is less observational; that, IMO, makes it a better one, even if the maximum height it predicts is of by 10% or so. In fact, that is fairly typical for scaling laws. For example, bumblebees and…
Why trees can't grow taller than around 100 metres
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#12In contrast, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5083564 describes a 2004 study that gives 130m as the limit, and claims a world record of 125m. Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_(tree) is 115m. However, this theory is less observational; that, IMO, makes it a better one, even if the maximum height it predicts is of by 10% or so. In fact, that is fairly typical for scaling laws. For example, bumblebees and…
Iirc albatrosses actually can't take off from the ground. They need to jump off a cliff with an updraft. So they're very careful about where they land.
Of course they can.
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#14I remember learning this in my high school biology class a few years ago. I recall the limit as being 120 meters because of the force of gravity. Xylum and phloem... memories.
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#15This doesn't seem to preclude a tree that's taller than that, but simply an outlier in its leaf size. Unless I'm misunderstanding something...
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#16>>Sugars accelerate as they move That's no way to describe the diffusion gradient. Also, this paper does not cover all of Plantae, so for all we know, other Embryophytes may be limited in height by an entirely different factor.
The creatures that we call trees, and the Earth had experimented with a lot of different types of trees, are in fact much higher if we count the roots.
Re: Why trees can't grow taller than around 100 metres
#17In contrast, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5083564 describes a 2004 study that gives 130m as the limit, and claims a world record of 125m. Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_(tree) is 115m. However, this theory is less observational; that, IMO, makes it a better one, even if the maximum height it predicts is of by 10% or so. In fact, that is fairly typical for scaling laws. For example, bumblebees and…
Re: Why trees can't grow taller than around 100 metres
#18I remember learning this in my high school biology class a few years ago. I recall the limit as being 120 meters because of the force of gravity. Xylum and phloem... memories.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Iirc albatrosses actually can't take off from the ground. They need to jump off a cliff with an updraft. So they're very careful about where they land.
> Iirc albatrosses actually can't take off from the ground Of course they can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTfcs6LL6A
Having now gone back and researched that a little better, it's only Waved Albatrosses I was thinking of and sources seem to disagree on whether they can take off from flat ground or not. They certainly prefer a cliff, and will make a long walk to get to one if necessary.