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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#12
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The addresses are pre-allocated and recycled when deleted so creating a new one is faster that with Apple's hide my mail.

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#14

> Long story short: now both Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email aliases are going to be issued on the @private.icloud.com subdomain. This makes it much easier to ban all aliases without affecting non-relay mailboxes on iCloud mail. Could someone clarify why having Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email on the same domain would make a blanket ban easier rather than harder? What am I missing?

I guess their thought process is, both alias and non-alias accounts use @icloud.com You were always able to reserve a normal icloud email address just like you would a GMail account, so banning all icloud email addresses would be banning non-alias Apple customers That being said, I'm not convinced anyone who wanted to ban aliases couldn't have already. The alias emails look weird enough I'm guessing you could ban the…

> The alias emails look weird enough I'm guessing you could ban them with few false positives.

While this is true not all of them been weird. Some can be just word + number + word without dots or underscores.

Also blanket banning whole domains is just much easier and already done for temporary emails. No false positives.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#15

> Long story short: now both Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email aliases are going to be issued on the @private.icloud.com subdomain. This makes it much easier to ban all aliases without affecting non-relay mailboxes on iCloud mail. Could someone clarify why having Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email on the same domain would make a blanket ban easier rather than harder? What am I missing?

Apple was generating (something)@icloud.com whenever you used that service. Now, it will use (something)@private.icloud.com instead. So you can ban this subdomain instantly, knowing people will be "hiding" with this service by default.

It's like blocking anondaddy, simplelogin etc but not protonmail.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#16
post #7

If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

Unfortunately sometimes we are at some specific provider’s mercy for whatever reason like lack of appropriate alternatives.

COUGHredditCOUGH

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#18
email isn't really a decentralized system at all. Google, Microsoft and Amazon own e-mail delivery. Perhaps Google ads customers complained that they could not correlated private @icloud addresses, and we are now witnessing the consequences. What Apple got in exchange from Google, I don't know, I'm sure it is related to their Siri deal.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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email isn't really a decentralized system at all. Google, Microsoft and Amazon own e-mail delivery. Perhaps Google ads customers complained that they could not correlated private @icloud addresses, and we are now witnessing the consequences. What Apple got in exchange from Google, I don't know, I'm sure it is related to their Siri deal.

[citation badly needed]

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#20
Oh fuck. I love Hide My Email and it's been the best feature about iCloud ever since it came out.

It's actually useful compared to Gmail's useless "yourrealaddress+alais" that gives away your actual email anyway, and it helped me catch quite a few spammers/data sellers.

Hide My Email addresses already have a peculiar format that others could guess, and some do block those, and there's no reason to add a blatant "private." tag.

This is a win for privacy-intruders, not users, just like Apple's iCloud Keychain API that has allowed Facebook, TikTok etc. to secretly track users across multiple devices and device reinstalls for years.

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