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does the mysql/mariadb comparison actually make sense? mysql is not really a downstream distro of mariadb (maaybe even the opposite?) so i thought i understood the situation as presented until that paragraph
The comparison with MySQL/MariaDB is unfortunate, given that since the "split" MariaDB has shown itself to be every bit the corporate owned "FOSS" project while its supporters still harp on about how terrible oracle is for OSS, without actually acknowledging the real history of each respective project and accompanying company. Given that MariaDB the company is now owned by a private equity firm, I doubt it's going to…
Still got Percona, but I'm not sure what their status is at the moment.
I'm sure for some shops this will drive them to pay for the same feature in MariaDB cluster, but I'm more likely to just transition to MySQL Group Replication.
This is my whole point about MariaDB - they are steadily making their OSS software completely dependent on the company (paid) versions for anything beyond toy scale.
does the mysql/mariadb comparison actually make sense? mysql is not really a downstream distro of mariadb (maaybe even the opposite?) so i thought i understood the situation as presented until that paragraph
This article links to a previous one[0] (by Poul) which states: > I will also state for the record, that there are no hard feelings between Varnish Software and the FOSS project. I wonder if that is still the case now. (this article is fairly diplomatically written, but I'd imagine it must be pretty frustrating) [0] https://vinyl-cache.org/organization/20-years.html#years
But if FOSS is deeply encoded into your DNA, you become pretty protective once you realize your project may become extinct sometimes in the future.
"Vinyl cache" is an interesting name. I wonder what other candidates the maintainers considered? I was secretly hoping they would name it "Veneer Cache" or something similar to "varnish".
"Vinyl cache" is an interesting name. I wonder what other candidates the maintainers considered? I was secretly hoping they would name it "Veneer Cache" or something similar to "varnish".
does the mysql/mariadb comparison actually make sense? mysql is not really a downstream distro of mariadb (maaybe even the opposite?) so i thought i understood the situation as presented until that paragraph
That said, it seems to be a common point of confusion among FOSS die-hards, but still super unfortunate to see it repeated in this context!
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Still got Percona, but I'm not sure what their status is at the moment.
To me the biggest "unknown" with Percona is that MariaDB (the company) bought out Codership (the creators of Galera Cluster, which XtraDB Cluster is based on) and it doesn't seem to be OSS any more. I'm sure for some shops this will drive them to pay for the same feature in MariaDB cluster, but I'm more likely to just transition to MySQL Group Replication. This is my whole point about MariaDB - they are steadily maki…
Oracle has also been guilty of locking modern table stakes behind the MySQL Enterprise / Heatwave pay gate, such as vector indexes and JS stored procedures. And while they've recently announced more of this stuff will move to FOSS soon, at the same time their response rate to new bug reports has become worse than ever before, which is deeply worrying.
And a couple days ago Oracle announced that they're nonsensically changing their MySQL versioning/LTS naming yet again. So now the way you identify an LTS is "major version is an even-numbered last two digits of a year, while minor version is exactly 4 to represent LTS releases always being in April." So for example MySQL 28.4 will be LTS, but 28.7 and 28.10 are not. But prior to this, 9.7 and 8.4 are LTS, and 8.0 was de facto LTS but now EOL. It's bizarre. I wish I was joking!
Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me the biggest "unknown" with Percona is that MariaDB (the company) bought out Codership (the creators of Galera Cluster, which XtraDB Cluster is based on) and it doesn't seem to be OSS any more. I'm sure for some shops this will drive them to pay for the same feature in MariaDB cluster, but I'm more likely to just transition to MySQL Group Replication. This is my whole point about MariaDB - they are steadily maki…
I don't think your last sentence is fair. Many workloads don't need something like Galera, as standard async replication scales to extreme levels, and you can achieve excellent HA with external orchestration and/or proxies. FOSS MariaDB is definitely not toy-scale only. Oracle has also been guilty of locking modern table stakes behind the MySQL Enterprise / Heatwave pay gate, such as vector indexes and JS stored proc…
So, the stuff that basically appeals to people chasing the AI dragon, and has zero practical use for 99.999% of developers making real products?
> I wish I was joking!
I wish I could care even a little bit about such minutiae.