We are really happy with proxmox for our 4 machine cluster in the group. We evaluated many things, they were either to light or to heavy for our users and/or our group of hobbyist admins. A while back we also set up a backup server. Forum is also a great resource. I just failed to contribute a pull request via their git email workflow and I am now stuck with a non-upstreamed patch to the LDAP Sync (btw. the code there is IMHO not the best part of PVE). In general, while the system works great as a monolith, extending it is IMHO really not easily possible. We have some cludges all over the place (mostly using the really good API), that could be better integrated, e.g. with the UI. At least I did not find a way to e.g. add a new auth provider easily.
Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
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Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#12"It’s also possible to install Proxmox VE 9.0 on top of Debian." Has that always been the case? I have a faint memory of trying once and not being able to with Proxmox 7.x
I do it this way every time.
Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#13"It’s also possible to install Proxmox VE 9.0 on top of Debian." Has that always been the case? I have a faint memory of trying once and not being able to with Proxmox 7.x
Yes it's always been the case. I installed Proxmox 3.4 (based on Debian 7) this way originally, and have been upgrading ever since with no issues.
Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#14"It’s also possible to install Proxmox VE 9.0 on top of Debian." Has that always been the case? I have a faint memory of trying once and not being able to with Proxmox 7.x
You can even install Proxmox on NixOS now (no official support ofc) though https://github.com/SaumonNet/proxmox-nixos
Which I think is really cool since it means their stuff is "truly open-source" :)
Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#15> The Proxmox VE mobile interface has been thoroughly reworked, using the new Proxmox widget toolkit powered by the Rust-based Yew framework.
First time hearing about Yew (yew.rs). First time hearing about it. Is it like writing frontend code in Rust and compiled to WASM ? Is anyone using it (other than Proxmox folks, of course).
Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#16The official release of Debian Trixie is not until the 9th...
Trixie is under a heavy freeze right now; just about all that's changing between now and the 9th are critical bug fixes. Yeah it's not ideal for Proxmox to release an OS based on Trixie this early, but nothing's really going to change in the next few days on the Debian side except for final release ISOs being uploaded
They might drop packages between now and the stable release. An official Debian release won't generally drop packages unless they've become totally unusable to begin with.
Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#17Ugh, I’d love to make the leap, but I don’t want the headache of trying to get SR-IOV going again for my integrated Intel graphics.
Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Debian repositories gets frozen months in advance before a release, and pretty much only security patches are imported after that. Maybe some package gets rebuilt, or stuff like that. No breaking changes. I wouldn't expect much changes, if any a all, between today (Aug 5th) and the expected release date (Aug 9th).
Yeah, it’s wild how many projects—especially container-based ones—have already jumped to Debian Trixie as their “stable” base, even though it’s still technically in testing. I got burned when linuxserver.io’s docker-webtop suddenly switched to Trixie and broke a bunch of my builds that were based on Bookworm. As you said, Debian 13 officially lands on August 9, so it’s close—but in my (admittedly limited) experience,…
When did you run into your problems? Is there a chance they are largely resolved at this point?
Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#19Ugh, I’d love to make the leap, but I don’t want the headache of trying to get SR-IOV going again for my integrated Intel graphics.
Why not run virtio-gpu in the guest?
Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trixie is under a heavy freeze right now; just about all that's changing between now and the 9th are critical bug fixes. Yeah it's not ideal for Proxmox to release an OS based on Trixie this early, but nothing's really going to change in the next few days on the Debian side except for final release ISOs being uploaded
They might drop packages between now and the stable release. An official Debian release won't generally drop packages unless they've become totally unusable to begin with.
Given that Proxmox operates their own repos for their custom packages and users don't typically install their own packages on top of Proxmox, if a package they need gets dropped due to RC bugs (etc) they can upload it to their own repo