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Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released

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"It’s also possible to install Proxmox VE 9.0 on top of Debian." Has that always been the case? I have a faint memory of trying once and not being able to with Proxmox 7.x

I'm pretty sure it's been the case since at least 7.0, as I've done it a few times on hosts such as Scaleway that only offered a Debian base image for my machine.

Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released

#5

"It’s also possible to install Proxmox VE 9.0 on top of Debian." Has that always been the case? I have a faint memory of trying once and not being able to with Proxmox 7.x

Yeh. It's useful when trying to install onto partition setups the built in installer doesn't support OOTB.

But, things like proxmox-boot-tool may not work.

Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released

#6

The official release of Debian Trixie is not until the 9th...

Trixie is under a heavy freeze right now; just about all that's changing between now and the 9th are critical bug fixes. Yeah it's not ideal for Proxmox to release an OS based on Trixie this early, but nothing's really going to change in the next few days on the Debian side except for final release ISOs being uploaded

Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released

#7

The official release of Debian Trixie is not until the 9th...

Debian repositories gets frozen months in advance before a release, and pretty much only security patches are imported after that. Maybe some package gets rebuilt, or stuff like that. No breaking changes.

I wouldn't expect much changes, if any a all, between today (Aug 5th) and the expected release date (Aug 9th).

Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released

#8

"It’s also possible to install Proxmox VE 9.0 on top of Debian." Has that always been the case? I have a faint memory of trying once and not being able to with Proxmox 7.x

I've done it a few times--8.x for sure, maybe earlier, but I've now been using it for too long to remember accurately.

Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released

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post #7

The official release of Debian Trixie is not until the 9th...

Debian repositories gets frozen months in advance before a release, and pretty much only security patches are imported after that. Maybe some package gets rebuilt, or stuff like that. No breaking changes. I wouldn't expect much changes, if any a all, between today (Aug 5th) and the expected release date (Aug 9th).

Yeah, but what is the rush? I mean 1) what if something critical changes, and 2) I could easily see some setting somewhere being at "-rc" which causes a bug later.

Frankly, not waiting half a week is bright orange flag to me.

Re: Proxmox Virtual Environment 9.0 with Debian 13 released

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post #7

The official release of Debian Trixie is not until the 9th...

Debian repositories gets frozen months in advance before a release, and pretty much only security patches are imported after that. Maybe some package gets rebuilt, or stuff like that. No breaking changes. I wouldn't expect much changes, if any a all, between today (Aug 5th) and the expected release date (Aug 9th).

Yeah, it’s wild how many projects—especially container-based ones—have already jumped to Debian Trixie as their “stable” base, even though it’s still technically in testing. I got burned when linuxserver.io’s docker-webtop suddenly switched to Trixie and broke a bunch of my builds that were based on Bookworm.

As you said, Debian 13 officially lands on August 9, so it’s close—but in my (admittedly limited) experience, the testing branch still feels pretty rough. I ran into way more dependency chaos—and a bunch of missing or deprecated packages—than I expected.

If you’re relying on container images that have already moved to Trixie, heads up: it’s not quite seamless yet. Might be safer to stick with Bookworm a bit longer, or at least test thoroughly before making the jump.

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