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BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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Maybe I’m in a bubble, but I didn’t even notice BMW had EVs

While BMW does have some models that are blatantly electric like the i3, most of their electric cars look pretty much just like the regular gasoline ones. I think it's a clever move that taps into their existing market dynamic.

> most of their electric cars look pretty much just like the regular gasoline ones

Right, they have disguised the electric ones as phenomenally ugly late-stage German cars, so you can't really tell they are electric without getting closer than you'd really like. From a safe distance it just looks like any other BMW with grill cancer.

Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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Maybe I’m in a bubble, but I didn’t even notice BMW had EVs

They're easy to spot, at least for recent sedans & suv, they're the ones with a front grille looking like beaver teeth and the grille look more solid vs traditional vent (which make sense since there's no combustion engine that needs cold air intake to cool down)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/bmw-ix-...

Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

#13

Maybe I’m in a bubble, but I didn’t even notice BMW had EVs

Cannot judge if you are in a bubble but BMW has more variety for electric models than Tesla. There are probably some customers that care.

I would never buy Tesla personally if there is an alrernative with decades of experience, like BMW

Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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post #6

Maybe I’m in a bubble, but I didn’t even notice BMW had EVs

While BMW does have some models that are blatantly electric like the i3, most of their electric cars look pretty much just like the regular gasoline ones. I think it's a clever move that taps into their existing market dynamic.

Don't they pack the batteries in the floor, making the car necessarily higher? Isn't this the biggest difference?

And the weight, of course.

Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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How much of this is driven by lumpy delivery? Tesla used to do this all the time: book thousands of orders, send them all over on a boat at once, then announce that they were the top-selling car in Swagistan (for that month, and no longer time scale). Is it the same story for BMW?

Yes https://i.imgur.com/ZNv1AyD.jpg Although BMW is making some nice EVs and they are selling more than they used to, the headline is misleading.

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Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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post #5

How much of this is driven by lumpy delivery? Tesla used to do this all the time: book thousands of orders, send them all over on a boat at once, then announce that they were the top-selling car in Swagistan (for that month, and no longer time scale). Is it the same story for BMW?

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Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cannot judge if you are in a bubble but BMW has more variety for electric models than Tesla. There are probably some customers that care.

I would never buy Tesla personally if there is an alrernative with decades of experience, like BMW

That's not a good heuristic since Teslas have been far better than the i3

Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cannot judge if you are in a bubble but BMW has more variety for electric models than Tesla. There are probably some customers that care.

I would never buy Tesla personally if there is an alrernative with decades of experience, like BMW

Odd since BMWs are not known for reliabilty

Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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post #11
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While BMW does have some models that are blatantly electric like the i3, most of their electric cars look pretty much just like the regular gasoline ones. I think it's a clever move that taps into their existing market dynamic.

> most of their electric cars look pretty much just like the regular gasoline ones Right, they have disguised the electric ones as phenomenally ugly late-stage German cars, so you can't really tell they are electric without getting closer than you'd really like. From a safe distance it just looks like any other BMW with grill cancer.

They must love their Adolf's toothbrush grill.

Re: BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would never buy Tesla personally if there is an alrernative with decades of experience, like BMW

That's not a good heuristic since Teslas have been far better than the i3

Depends on how you measure it. Teslas rank at #1 as the most faulty electric car in existence.

Everything else than the battery or motors are poor quality if you compare to any other above average brand.

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