I wonder how this would have played out using deep fake technology
Mandalorian Season 2 spoilers below. This article looks relevant: “How Star Wars Deepfake Seriously Improves Luke Skywalker Cameo in The Mandalorian” - the youtuber that did that eventually got hired by ILM. There is also an example with Tarkin. https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-wars-deepfake-luke-skywalk...
Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin
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#12I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies.
> I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies. Not super surprising to me. I've only seen episode 8. And that was enough for me to be completely uninterested in seeing any new Star Wars media. It's made me strangely nostalgic for the prequel trilogy. At the time they came out I was a little sad at how poorly they compared to the original trilogy. But at least t…
Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin
#13I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies.
Given Marvel and similar franchises at the cinema around the same period, it was a breath of fresh air (also a great film)
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#14I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies.
I remember leaving Rouge One _shocked_ that it was a self contained story, no post credits scenes, no need to commit to an entire trilogy or need to understand half a dozen recent releases. Given Marvel and similar franchises at the cinema around the same period, it was a breath of fresh air (also a great film)
The X-Men films have the property you want, with plots and characterization included in the movie instead of relying on you to bring them with you in your mind.
(Are the later films good? They're not great, but if you watch one you'll come out with a sense that the movie had a plot, the things that happened were related to that plot, and the characters had reasons for the things they were doing. The films are quite inconsistent with each other, but they're very coherent considered individually.)
The MCU films of phase 2 have already lost it. (For context, phase 2 starts with Iron Man 3 and is mostly garbage with the exception of Winter Soldier, concluding with Ant-Man.)
My conclusion is basically just that someone at the MCU decided "we can save on the budget if we stop using writers".
Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin
#15I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies.
I remember leaving Rouge One _shocked_ that it was a self contained story, no post credits scenes, no need to commit to an entire trilogy or need to understand half a dozen recent releases. Given Marvel and similar franchises at the cinema around the same period, it was a breath of fresh air (also a great film)
Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin
#16I remember when watching in the theater, the audience reacted with awe. At the time is was a novel technique. Then it was followed up with Carrie Fisher at the end. And the audience loved it.
The synthetic Carrie Fisher looked weird and wasn't so well received.
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> I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies. Not super surprising to me. I've only seen episode 8. And that was enough for me to be completely uninterested in seeing any new Star Wars media. It's made me strangely nostalgic for the prequel trilogy. At the time they came out I was a little sad at how poorly they compared to the original trilogy. But at least t…
8 has a few low points but overall I think it was great tbh. Took some risks and tried to get away from the importance of “who your parents are”/general “great man” nonsense a lot of heroic epics lean on. 9 on the other hand…oof. Don’t watch that.
The villain in the last three movies is hard for me to take seriously because he seems to have stepped out of an episode of Doctor Who.
I appreciate the last three movies though for outdoing themselves in scale as did early space operas such as Skylark of Space.
I see Star Wars as a project that suffered because it went on for way too long; there were major changes in the external culture inside of and between the last two trilogies that make them hard to watch together.
Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin
#18I remember when watching in the theater, the audience reacted with awe. At the time is was a novel technique. Then it was followed up with Carrie Fisher at the end. And the audience loved it.
Sometime after that the imperfection and potential inappropriateness of the technique gained more cultural traction.
It wasn’t until after The Last Jedi was released that Star Wars stopped getting the benefit of the doubt during first viewings, broadly speaking.
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> I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies. Not super surprising to me. I've only seen episode 8. And that was enough for me to be completely uninterested in seeing any new Star Wars media. It's made me strangely nostalgic for the prequel trilogy. At the time they came out I was a little sad at how poorly they compared to the original trilogy. But at least t…
8 has a few low points but overall I think it was great tbh. Took some risks and tried to get away from the importance of “who your parents are”/general “great man” nonsense a lot of heroic epics lean on. 9 on the other hand…oof. Don’t watch that.
“My enjoyment was predicated on it amounting to something. It was an IOU to be redeemed at the point of pleasurable revelation, and as there was none, the IOU was never redeemed. Therefore, I hadn’t enjoyed myself.”
Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin
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8 has a few low points but overall I think it was great tbh. Took some risks and tried to get away from the importance of “who your parents are”/general “great man” nonsense a lot of heroic epics lean on. 9 on the other hand…oof. Don’t watch that.
8 was not great. David Mitchell puts it best. “My enjoyment was predicated on it amounting to something. It was an IOU to be redeemed at the point of pleasurable revelation, and as there was none, the IOU was never redeemed. Therefore, I hadn’t enjoyed myself.”