Live data from Hacker News

Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

fxrant.blogspot.com

11–20 of 85 posts

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#11
post #5

I wonder how this would have played out using deep fake technology

Mandalorian Season 2 spoilers below. This article looks relevant: “How Star Wars Deepfake Seriously Improves Luke Skywalker Cameo in The Mandalorian” - the youtuber that did that eventually got hired by ILM. There is also an example with Tarkin. https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-wars-deepfake-luke-skywalk...

It is definitely better but it still has the problem of the original where his face just looks so stiff when he speaks.

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#12

I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies.

> I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies. Not super surprising to me. I've only seen episode 8. And that was enough for me to be completely uninterested in seeing any new Star Wars media. It's made me strangely nostalgic for the prequel trilogy. At the time they came out I was a little sad at how poorly they compared to the original trilogy. But at least t…

Rogue One is by far the best of the Disney "Star Wars" movies, and the only one that fits with the Lucas movies. Highly recommend it.

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#13

I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies.

I remember leaving Rouge One _shocked_ that it was a self contained story, no post credits scenes, no need to commit to an entire trilogy or need to understand half a dozen recent releases.

Given Marvel and similar franchises at the cinema around the same period, it was a breath of fresh air (also a great film)

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#14

I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies.

I remember leaving Rouge One _shocked_ that it was a self contained story, no post credits scenes, no need to commit to an entire trilogy or need to understand half a dozen recent releases. Given Marvel and similar franchises at the cinema around the same period, it was a breath of fresh air (also a great film)

I was just watching the X-Men films. I only went up to 2014, but that appears to be basically contemporary - Rogue One is from 2016 and the MCU apparently has a formal division into phases of which "phase 2" centers on 2014.

The X-Men films have the property you want, with plots and characterization included in the movie instead of relying on you to bring them with you in your mind.

(Are the later films good? They're not great, but if you watch one you'll come out with a sense that the movie had a plot, the things that happened were related to that plot, and the characters had reasons for the things they were doing. The films are quite inconsistent with each other, but they're very coherent considered individually.)

The MCU films of phase 2 have already lost it. (For context, phase 2 starts with Iron Man 3 and is mostly garbage with the exception of Winter Soldier, concluding with Ant-Man.)

My conclusion is basically just that someone at the MCU decided "we can save on the budget if we stop using writers".

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#15

I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies.

I remember leaving Rouge One _shocked_ that it was a self contained story, no post credits scenes, no need to commit to an entire trilogy or need to understand half a dozen recent releases. Given Marvel and similar franchises at the cinema around the same period, it was a breath of fresh air (also a great film)

It was a prequel to one of the greatest films of all time so there is no way they can top that.

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#16

I remember when watching in the theater, the audience reacted with awe. At the time is was a novel technique. Then it was followed up with Carrie Fisher at the end. And the audience loved it.

The synthetic Tarkin was well received and looked accurate.

The synthetic Carrie Fisher looked weird and wasn't so well received.

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies. Not super surprising to me. I've only seen episode 8. And that was enough for me to be completely uninterested in seeing any new Star Wars media. It's made me strangely nostalgic for the prequel trilogy. At the time they came out I was a little sad at how poorly they compared to the original trilogy. But at least t…

8 has a few low points but overall I think it was great tbh. Took some risks and tried to get away from the importance of “who your parents are”/general “great man” nonsense a lot of heroic epics lean on. 9 on the other hand…oof. Don’t watch that.

I watched 9 in 3-d on my Meta Quest 3.

The villain in the last three movies is hard for me to take seriously because he seems to have stepped out of an episode of Doctor Who.

I appreciate the last three movies though for outdoing themselves in scale as did early space operas such as Skylark of Space.

I see Star Wars as a project that suffered because it went on for way too long; there were major changes in the external culture inside of and between the last two trilogies that make them hard to watch together.

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#18

I remember when watching in the theater, the audience reacted with awe. At the time is was a novel technique. Then it was followed up with Carrie Fisher at the end. And the audience loved it.

I remember the same. I saw it in a packed opening weekend; Tarkin’s was more of a cheer and Leia’s a wave of appreciative murmurs. Overheard only positive remarks exiting the theater.

Sometime after that the imperfection and potential inappropriateness of the technique gained more cultural traction.

It wasn’t until after The Last Jedi was released that Star Wars stopped getting the benefit of the doubt during first viewings, broadly speaking.

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I enjoyed Rouge One a lot despite of all that. It was my favorite of all the recent Star Wars movies. Not super surprising to me. I've only seen episode 8. And that was enough for me to be completely uninterested in seeing any new Star Wars media. It's made me strangely nostalgic for the prequel trilogy. At the time they came out I was a little sad at how poorly they compared to the original trilogy. But at least t…

8 has a few low points but overall I think it was great tbh. Took some risks and tried to get away from the importance of “who your parents are”/general “great man” nonsense a lot of heroic epics lean on. 9 on the other hand…oof. Don’t watch that.

8 was not great. David Mitchell puts it best.

“My enjoyment was predicated on it amounting to something. It was an IOU to be redeemed at the point of pleasurable revelation, and as there was none, the IOU was never redeemed. Therefore, I hadn’t enjoyed myself.”

Re: Hal Hickel on Creating Tarkin

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

8 has a few low points but overall I think it was great tbh. Took some risks and tried to get away from the importance of “who your parents are”/general “great man” nonsense a lot of heroic epics lean on. 9 on the other hand…oof. Don’t watch that.

8 was not great. David Mitchell puts it best. “My enjoyment was predicated on it amounting to something. It was an IOU to be redeemed at the point of pleasurable revelation, and as there was none, the IOU was never redeemed. Therefore, I hadn’t enjoyed myself.”

[deleted]
Post reply on HN