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Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

#11

Does Brave ad blocker block these ads? Or does it only block competing ads?

1 - The initial idea to create Brave was to allow users to view ads and get paid for their attention.

2 - They've been caught replacing affiliate links with their own.

Based on that information what does your instinct tell you?

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

#13
post #2

Looks a lot like Brave's overall strategy (not just this announcement but the whole gist of the company) is to try and tap in to a part of Google's revenue stream by innovating in the web browser space. It is a bold one if so and I wish them every success. It is a pity the managers over at Mozilla don't think Google is worth challenging. If someone ever succeeds at dragging AdSense into the OSS world / a big free mar…

ADS are cancerous just like crypto stuff. That is the reason I switched to firefox klar & esr on my dailydriver machines and to librewolf on any other machine I had lying around. And search engine wise ecosia, metager and Qwant do a great job.

Brave Search has been a lot better than these other alternatives in my experience. I used to use DDG but the results were always a hit and miss. With Brave Search, I have completely replaced Google.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

#15

Does Brave ad blocker block these ads? Or does it only block competing ads?

1 - The initial idea to create Brave was to allow users to view ads and get paid for their attention. 2 - They've been caught replacing affiliate links with their own. Based on that information what does your instinct tell you?

Point #2 is false.

Brave partnered with a few crypto exchanges. The issue (which is on GitHub) was a bug in the URL auto suggestion feature of the chromium browser. Instead of suggesting the links, it was replacing them ONLY ON THOSE 2-3 CRYPTO WEBSITES.

The bug was fixed before it became news. It was fixed on day 1 of the report.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

#16
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If someone ever succeeds at dragging AdSense into the OSS world The absolute last thing I want is for the OSS world to fall prey to the perverse incentives of the ad industry. Advertising needs to be purged, not embraced.

Advertising is potentially useful, it's the scale that's a problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g Like, "Every inch of the new park is covered in sponsor branding" is a problem, but "I had no idea that a store selling towels opened in our town" is also a problem. These are both advertising, at some point you cross from "I didn't know about that, thanks" to "Just fuck off already" and that's too much adv…

The other purpose of the ad is to keep the product top of mind. Those bubbles-and-ice ads aren't to introduce you to the concept but to remind you that you want one - now.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ADS are cancerous just like crypto stuff. That is the reason I switched to firefox klar & esr on my dailydriver machines and to librewolf on any other machine I had lying around. And search engine wise ecosia, metager and Qwant do a great job.

Brave Search has been a lot better than these other alternatives in my experience. I used to use DDG but the results were always a hit and miss. With Brave Search, I have completely replaced Google.

Especially Metager is real competition to brave search as it using so many sources that it even outlived the ddg/bing attacks.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1 - The initial idea to create Brave was to allow users to view ads and get paid for their attention. 2 - They've been caught replacing affiliate links with their own. Based on that information what does your instinct tell you?

Point #2 is false. Brave partnered with a few crypto exchanges. The issue (which is on GitHub) was a bug in the URL auto suggestion feature of the chromium browser. Instead of suggesting the links, it was replacing them ONLY ON THOSE 2-3 CRYPTO WEBSITES. The bug was fixed before it became news. It was fixed on day 1 of the report.

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Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

#20
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If someone ever succeeds at dragging AdSense into the OSS world The absolute last thing I want is for the OSS world to fall prey to the perverse incentives of the ad industry. Advertising needs to be purged, not embraced.

Advertising is potentially useful, it's the scale that's a problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g Like, "Every inch of the new park is covered in sponsor branding" is a problem, but "I had no idea that a store selling towels opened in our town" is also a problem. These are both advertising, at some point you cross from "I didn't know about that, thanks" to "Just fuck off already" and that's too much adv…

I already googled for towel shops. Just like everybody else would do. I had to accept the manipulated results and most probably even fell for it.

So why would I need even more ads for the new towel store?

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