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Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Post by PaulHoule »

The large carrying case means it is not a "mobile" device. Sure you can take one on an airplane but it is going to be awkward. (What is the stewardess supposed to say? Are you supposed to take it off for takeoff and landing? Are you supposed to stow it? Where?)

I was thinking you might use a device like this as a laptop replacement while traveling. Maybe I would because I'm a notorious overpacker but I think most people wouldn't. The carrying case for my Hololens 1 is crazy big and I know a grad student who sometimes shuttles a Meta Quest Pro to work and it fills his whole backpack.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

#12

Post by samstave »

asmallcat wrote: post #4

Wonderfully written review. Happy to have read it and disappointed with some of the takeaways. I wish that there were more of a "mac-centric" approach taken for powerusers, rather than barreling forward with visionOS. Once their OS is truly consolidated I may have more use for this device.

>...more of a "mac-centric" approach taken for powerusers..."

I think this the Apple Business plan in its entirety.

But we shorten it to "Lock-in" for brevity. (or platform, moat, walled garden, etc)\

Not that theres anything wrong with that!

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

#13

Post by theNJR »

Topfi wrote: post #6

This is a very in-depth, informative and factual review. My hats off to the Verge; great job. I have racked up hours upon hours of actual, productive work in my Quest 2 and 3, so to say that I am a big proponent of the ideas that Apple is trying to advance would be an understatement. This makes me all the more disheartened to read that, for all their efforts, this release is mired by the same drawbacks that I have en…

You captured my feeling perfectly. In particular

>> While your then-PDA may have supported 3G and came with many other capabilities the first iPhone lacked, there were certain things in regard to build, design, usability and intuitiveness that were unparalleled in the products at the time. Comparing an iPhone and an iPAQ Pocket PC made the latter seem ancient, even though it could do a lot the iPhone couldn't. Compare a Vision Pro to a Quest 3, I am saddened to say I don't see the same.>>

I too was hoping for the sum of the parts to be something special.

I’m picking my AVP up on Saturday. I’ll give it an honest go but expect to return it within a week. I’ve owned most VR headsets and they sit in a drawer, rarely used. For a few hundred dollars I’m ok with that. For a few thousand I am not.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

#14

Post by akmarinov »

PaulHoule wrote: post #11

The large carrying case means it is not a "mobile" device. Sure you can take one on an airplane but it is going to be awkward. (What is the stewardess supposed to say? Are you supposed to take it off for takeoff and landing? Are you supposed to stow it? Where?) I was thinking you might use a device like this as a laptop replacement while traveling. Maybe I would because I'm a notorious overpacker but I think most peo…

On the MKBHD video it looks like you can disassemble most things and the only thing you care about is the actual display and glass. So you might get a smaller case from a third party vendor just for that part and then the rest - light seal, spacer thing, band - you can squish those in your bag.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

#15

Post by polyterative »

browningstreet wrote: post #3
Mindwipe wrote: post #2

This strikes me as the best review I've seen if you read the text (I'm not sure x/10 is useful). I learned a lot about it, including quite a few things Apple has been quite coy about.

Agreed, per their video take. Didn’t realize how limited the field of view and the color coverage was. But all the popular reviewers are pretty skeptical. I think when another company offers a less ambitious VR headset they have given them a pass because the market target is more limited. Apple’s not getting a pass. It’s impressive but not magical and there are a lot of unoptimal design characteristics for a general…

I would prefer to bring an iPad on the plane.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Post by bombcar »

Topfi wrote: post #6

This is a very in-depth, informative and factual review. My hats off to the Verge; great job. I have racked up hours upon hours of actual, productive work in my Quest 2 and 3, so to say that I am a big proponent of the ideas that Apple is trying to advance would be an understatement. This makes me all the more disheartened to read that, for all their efforts, this release is mired by the same drawbacks that I have en…

The whole thing feels very ... "original xbox" to me. Hear me out.

It was argued that a big part of the original xbox for Microsoft was making sure they had a toehold in the gaming console market because that market had a change of disrupting the personal computer - and if that happened, they wanted to be there for it and have something ready to go.

They did something similar with phones, and we can see how it spectacularly failed - they have zero say or relevance in the massive smartphone market.

I almost feel the Vision Pro is Apple's attempt to put a toe in the water just in case this VR stuff takes off and destroys the smartphone market.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Post by bombcar »

pivo wrote: post #10

Oh boy: "Listen to me, do you want to use a computer that is always looking at your hands?" It took a second for that warning to sink in.

Someone at Apple had to design the watch to detect certain hand motions and purposely ignore them. That's a thing that someone had to do, otherwise false positives would be embarrassingly pasted across the Internet for to be laughed at.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Post by akmarinov »

polyterative wrote: post #15
browningstreet wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, per their video take. Didn’t realize how limited the field of view and the color coverage was. But all the popular reviewers are pretty skeptical. I think when another company offers a less ambitious VR headset they have given them a pass because the market target is more limited. Apple’s not getting a pass. It’s impressive but not magical and there are a lot of unoptimal design characteristics for a general…

I would prefer to bring an iPad on the plane.

Depends. On a 2 hour flight - yeah. On a 16 hour flight (with power in the seats) - no.

Re: Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it's not

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Post by testfrequency »

bitcurious wrote: post #8
testfrequency wrote: post #5

It’s been pretty disingenuous of Apple to have all their marketing photos with the single strap, when the unanimous opinion is that strap doesn’t work at all for comfortability or longevity. Similar to AirPods Max, they oddly chose heavy materials just for the sake of finish - rather than functionality. If they truly cared about the user experience of the actual software/hardware, they would have went with better mat…

> It’s been pretty disingenuous of Apple to have all their marketing photos with the single strap, when the unanimous opinion is that strap doesn’t work at all for comfortability or longevity. "I found the solo loop much more comfortable" - direct quote out of the article you're replying to.

The solo loop is more comfortable on the head, but it’s not practical for longer than a few minutes.

My point is this band just looks good in marketing photos, but it will not be what the vast majority of people will be using once they’ve put the common dual loop band on

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