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My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

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Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

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Post by self_awareness »

I'm interested in stories that span for several years, because if someone installs and maintains something for 1-2 months, then this is not really an indicator of anything. Part of the difficulty comes with system updates, application updates, migration of configuration files, hostile environment like DDoSes of angry people, hacking attempts, deprecated docker containers, incompatible library versions, changed policy of python scripts on some Linux distro, than span over multiple year periods. I would be interested in hearing what people have to say, but including the later subjects as well.

I like your music by the way (Hoggatah)!

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

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Post by self_awareness »

elashri wrote: post #7
toomuchtodo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? Because it's a pain in the ass and people don't care enough to. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. They don't want to know about cloud and infra primitives, they want their photos in their phone and for them to be safe and shareable. They want their iMessages and WhatsApp to JustWork(TM). > How can we make…

> Because it's a pain in the ass. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. It seems that I enjoy the pain with many other people on r/selfhosted. I will call that pleasure I feel, The Pleasure of Pain. I think that was what the web was about since the beginning and lasted for a good couple of years before targeted ads and "data became the new oil". Edit: I replied before the GP edited the comment.

Generally I'm for self hosting everything that I can, I just can't help myself pointing out that currently the most popular thread on r/selfhosted is "I'd rather kill myself than host SMTP again (self.selfhosted)" :D

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

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Post by ekianjo »

rglullis wrote: post #14
ekianjo wrote: post #12

Peertube is supposed to be peer to peer but even though there's 8 seeders right now I can't even watch the video...

AFAIK, Peertube is only p2p when the normal streaming server is overloaded.

looks like it's overloaded all right

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#16

Post by rglullis »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #4
colesantiago wrote: post #3

This is awesome. Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations? A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy. There must be more that can be done here bu…

> Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? Because it's a pain in the ass and people don't care enough to. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. They don't want to know about cloud and infra primitives, they want their photos in their phone and for them to be safe and shareable. They want their iMessages and WhatsApp to JustWork(TM). > How can we make…

And even when you give them an app and basically spoonfeed them with the alternative, the small group that has come before will act like a bunch of elitist NIMBYs who will cry about their small "community losing character".

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

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Post by ISL »

colesantiago wrote: post #3

This is awesome. Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations? A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy. There must be more that can be done here bu…

I would self-host on a cloud instance for a monthly fee if it required no maintenance overhead from me.

I might also self-host if residential ISPs didn't treat home servers as an aberration.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#19

Post by INTPenis »

ekianjo wrote: post #12

Peertube is supposed to be peer to peer but even though there's 8 seeders right now I can't even watch the video...

I'm always curious to see if peertube is going to work but I have to admit it started immediately, said it had 9 seeders, and worked fine.

But I wonder how it works after a few weeks when it's not being HN'd and the author isn't seeding it.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#20

Post by discardedrefuse »

I have a question that I was hoping the video would answer, but I didn't see. The Fediverse is always described with that interconnected diagram where everything talks to each other over ActivityPub. But I never see that in practice.

For example: If I have a mastodon.social account, how does that work with pixelfed.social or tube.jenna.net? Do I use my mastodon.social account to sign up to those other services? Or to follow users on those other services? How do the clients handle the fact that they are different services?

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