My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
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Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#2May it survive The Hug
/s, kinda. Peertube may help
Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#3This is awesome.
Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy?
How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations?
A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy.
There must be more that can be done here but it is a start!
Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#4This is awesome. Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations? A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy. There must be more that can be done here bu…
> Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy?
Because it's a pain in the ass and people don't care enough to. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. They don't want to know about cloud and infra primitives, they want their photos in their phone and for them to be safe and shareable. They want their iMessages and WhatsApp to JustWork(TM).
> How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations?
You cannot. Make non profits to manage this infra. Wikipedia, Lets Encrypt, etc. Hacker News is a benevolent dictatorship funded by a VC fund and run by someone passionate about the work. Incorporate a 501c3, spin up a deposit account, and start sourcing donations and funding to pay for infra and people.
This is not a doomer comment. Enable the power admins and passionate folks to deliver a great experience to normies with as little effort as possible. Literally how Wikipedia functions: datacenter, paid admins, passionate volunteers curating bytes.
(Would be cool if Cloudflare supported one click deploy of Fediverse tools into their edge cloud; scale when you need, get your data out of R2 and databases on demand so you're not locked in; having to pay for infra is inevitable, that is to be solved for)
Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#5This is awesome. Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations? A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy. There must be more that can be done here bu…
Convenience. Setting it up, maintaining it, cost, audience reach. Lots of reasons.
Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#6This is awesome. Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations? A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy. There must be more that can be done here bu…
> Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? Because it's a pain in the ass and people don't care enough to. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. They don't want to know about cloud and infra primitives, they want their photos in their phone and for them to be safe and shareable. They want their iMessages and WhatsApp to JustWork(TM). > How can we make…
Most people would like the privacy, but not the responsibility and concomitant work.
Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#7This is awesome. Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations? A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy. There must be more that can be done here bu…
> Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? Because it's a pain in the ass and people don't care enough to. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. They don't want to know about cloud and infra primitives, they want their photos in their phone and for them to be safe and shareable. They want their iMessages and WhatsApp to JustWork(TM). > How can we make…
> Because it's a pain in the ass. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app.
It seems that I enjoy the pain with many other people on r/selfhosted. I will call that pleasure I feel, The Pleasure of Pain.
I think that was what the web was about since the beginning and lasted for a good couple of years before targeted ads and "data became the new oil".
Edit: I replied before the GP edited the comment.
Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? Because it's a pain in the ass and people don't care enough to. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. They don't want to know about cloud and infra primitives, they want their photos in their phone and for them to be safe and shareable. They want their iMessages and WhatsApp to JustWork(TM). > How can we make…
Most people would like the privacy, but not the responsibility and concomitant work.
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Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#9Amazing, would be nice to have a compiled setup script that can be easily adapted. Kudos!
Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? Because it's a pain in the ass and people don't care enough to. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. They don't want to know about cloud and infra primitives, they want their photos in their phone and for them to be safe and shareable. They want their iMessages and WhatsApp to JustWork(TM). > How can we make…
> Because it's a pain in the ass. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. It seems that I enjoy the pain with many other people on r/selfhosted. I will call that pleasure I feel, The Pleasure of Pain. I think that was what the web was about since the beginning and lasted for a good couple of years before targeted ads and "data became the new oil". Edit: I replied before the GP edited the comment.
I do not fault the r/selfhosted masochists, no kink shaming here, but recognize outliers vs the mean. Go talk to average folks for 15-60 minutes on the street about what social (video, communities, threads/twitter/x/whatever, etc) means to them, this will help calibrate perspective. This is just product and user research. Find out what people want and build it, don't build what you think they want. Product market fit is not just for startups.