How was the ex parte trial even allowed here? Did she not respond to the summons? Is this just something they do if the person is outside US jurisdiction?
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Other countries' court systems are just as exploitable, but go unexploited, out of (presumably) a lack of interest / lack of social mores that predispose toward suing people.
Thus article about Poland was posted yesterday:
https://www.science.org/content/article/costly-invite-scient...
Everywhere sucks, this site just has a lot of people (both American and non-American) who seem to revel in posting absurdly anti-American statements at every perceived opportunity.
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#13My brother in law had his identity stolen about 6 months ago. He went through the normal routine of cancelling everything, putting holds on everything, etc. He thought he was in the clear, until last week, he received a letter in the mail for a summons for several felonies, including fraud, in the state of Utah (he lives in PA).
It is insane to me that PayPal, Venmo, VISA, etc, all can allow someone who isn't him to open accounts, run transactions, etc, but not have to bear the legal liability of it, and instead it appears to be him that is legally liable.
IMO, the transacting companies here are the ones that need to be charged. I never consented into the American credit system, yet by virtue of being born here, all these companies can, and will, apparently let others open accounts in my name, with no liability.
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#14This is absurd. This is just as much as indictment of ridiculous American courts as it is the corporations prosecuting such a case. What is happening in that clown country that a civil case against a person who wasn't even involved in the infraction can be judged liable when they are not even present to defend themselves? America is a bully nation.
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#17You wouldn't think there is a very good judicial process in place if it could charge someone of a crime without first establishing the identity of the perpetrator beforehand. What's to stop fictitious entities from being charged with fictitious crimes against fictitious victims? Surely the standard of proof should be higher...
This was a civil case, not a criminal case[1]. In civil cases after the plaintiff has made a prima facie case the burden shifts to the defendant to dismiss the claims against them, if they can, usually at their cost. Lots of people end up with default judgments against them every day because the court systems are terribly difficult to navigate with no legal knowledge. Civil in rem forfeiture is even worse as most jurisdictions allow for the state to take your property with no court involvement at all if you fail to file the right paperwork at the right place at the right time.
[1] I have been in court three different times and seen the wrong defendant brought from the jail to be released since they aren't the person being sought by the indictment, but a case of misidentification by law enforcement. Quite how these people managed to alert the jail authorities to the problem I do not know; having spent significant time in jail I have no idea how you would get any personnel to take seriously the idea that you "aren't supposed to be there."
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#18My brother in law had his identity stolen about 6 months ago. He went through the normal routine of cancelling everything, putting holds on everything, etc. He thought he was in the clear, until last week, he received a letter in the mail for a summons for several felonies, including fraud, in the state of Utah (he lives in PA). It is insane to me that PayPal, Venmo, VISA, etc, all can allow someone who isn't him to…
He's lucky he found out about the summons, because it's very common to commit a traffic infraction, get pulled over and then find yourself facedown at gunpoint when the cop finds out you have several warrants for crimes you never committed. And depending on your ethnicity it could certainly lead to your untimely demise by police if you got belligerent about it.
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#19My brother in law had his identity stolen about 6 months ago. He went through the normal routine of cancelling everything, putting holds on everything, etc. He thought he was in the clear, until last week, he received a letter in the mail for a summons for several felonies, including fraud, in the state of Utah (he lives in PA). It is insane to me that PayPal, Venmo, VISA, etc, all can allow someone who isn't him to…
He's lucky he found out about the summons, because it's very common to commit a traffic infraction, get pulled over and then find yourself facedown at gunpoint when the cop finds out you have several warrants for crimes you never committed. And depending on your ethnicity it could certainly lead to your untimely demise by police if you got belligerent about it.
He only found out because it got sent to his parents house, where he has not lived for 9 years.