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Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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You wouldn't think there is a very good judicial process in place if it could charge someone of a crime without first establishing the identity of the perpetrator beforehand. What's to stop fictitious entities from being charged with fictitious crimes against fictitious victims? Surely the standard of proof should be higher...

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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This is absurd. This is just as much as indictment of ridiculous American courts as it is the corporations prosecuting such a case. What is happening in that clown country that a civil case against a person who wasn't even involved in the infraction can be judged liable when they are not even present to defend themselves? America is a bully nation.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

#4
Situations like these keep bringing me back to the idea that important actions should require an actual, in person, human notary seal.

Contract signings, online court service, title changes, etc should not be valid without an offline record examiner who affirms under threat of perjury that the parties involved are who they claim (or are claimed to be).

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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post #3

This is absurd. This is just as much as indictment of ridiculous American courts as it is the corporations prosecuting such a case. What is happening in that clown country that a civil case against a person who wasn't even involved in the infraction can be judged liable when they are not even present to defend themselves? America is a bully nation.

I don’t understand what the companies hope to gain out of this aside from loads of bad publicity?

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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>She was then served electronically with papers from the US District Court of Florida outlining Adidas' case against her.

I don't get it, based on this[1] it looks like electronic service is only possible if the party consented. That seems fairly reasonable. How would this have happened? Is there more to this?

The docket for this case is here: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66634655/adidas-ag-v-th.... I'd be very interested to see what the "Certificate of Service" contains, but I don't have PACER access.

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_5

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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post #3

This is absurd. This is just as much as indictment of ridiculous American courts as it is the corporations prosecuting such a case. What is happening in that clown country that a civil case against a person who wasn't even involved in the infraction can be judged liable when they are not even present to defend themselves? America is a bully nation.

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Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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post #3

This is absurd. This is just as much as indictment of ridiculous American courts as it is the corporations prosecuting such a case. What is happening in that clown country that a civil case against a person who wasn't even involved in the infraction can be judged liable when they are not even present to defend themselves? America is a bully nation.

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Ah there it is, the eternal "better things are not possible" retort to any given criticism.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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post #3

This is absurd. This is just as much as indictment of ridiculous American courts as it is the corporations prosecuting such a case. What is happening in that clown country that a civil case against a person who wasn't even involved in the infraction can be judged liable when they are not even present to defend themselves? America is a bully nation.

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Other countries' court systems are just as exploitable, but go unexploited, out of (presumably) a lack of interest / lack of social mores that predispose toward suing people.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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post #4

Situations like these keep bringing me back to the idea that important actions should require an actual, in person, human notary seal. Contract signings, online court service, title changes, etc should not be valid without an offline record examiner who affirms under threat of perjury that the parties involved are who they claim (or are claimed to be).

Eh, I was forced to have a notary do something and it ended up being an apparently 20 year old dude at a UPS store looking at some papers for a few seconds. Not exactly the high trust exercise it’s made out to be.
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