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G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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A few days ago I was searching for some information about a CSS problem I was having. I saw a promising result on a reputable looking webpage. As soon as I started unpacking the example code a little modal window popped up saying this was AI powered and touted it as some revolutionary assistant.

First things first, using AI to generate CSS advice is probably the most false positive laden use-case I can imagine. Especially because mistakes in CSS aren’t always readily apparent.

But more importantly, there’s really nothing stopping folks from omitting the fact that the content on the page was AI generated. It’s the new hotness right now, so I can understand why they say so, but I can’t help but think they’ll start hiding this fact.

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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post #7

I'm interested in this idea, as possibly a good thing. I'm definitely pro "personal data poisoning," e.g, absent legislation and/or incentives with teeth - we should all be working on ways to confound and confuse and generally screw up the companies who are sucking up all the personal info. This kind of runs parallel to that. Google search has been pretty bad for some time now, might be worth "burning this thing down…

The resolution to burning it down is replacing it with something that works.

Quality, human curated, perhaps niche, search is what we should be encouraging and paying for with actual money, and not by renting our brains out.

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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Hopefully this serves as an incentive to Google to improve their search results. I find GPT-4 works so much better for finding answers (even in cases when it's wrong) than searching Google, especially for trivial ones. Add plugin features like code interpreter and the usefulness is not even close for most of the cases I use it.

It's always worth verifying the answers, but that's also true for google results, and with GPT I don't have to dig through mountains of trash advertising sites to get to something useful.

Really, I'd just like to see Google as useful as it once was.

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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post #8

> You’re going to see more AI-written articles whether you like it or not I won't, cause I have largely stopped using Google.

Bing and its consumers (I use Kagi) will have the same problems unless they do something radical, like promote content verifiably created by humans above unverified content.

And first they'd have to figure out what that even means, and the impact on non-professional writers. Blogspam will get worse before it gets better.

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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If AI can write articles that fool Google, Google can use AI to detect it. Heck, maybe there will be an AI model that specifically recognizes AI content and can be used to filter it out. A lot of electricity spent for nothing, but it's not like the human species hasn't been its own worst enemy since it appeared.

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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post #6

It's the natural evolution of content marketing & SEO. I work at an IT company where we have ~15 ppl building and managing a few SaaS apps for the travel industry, and we have 50-60 ppl doing marketing as a service for our customers. They write page after page of content that barely get read. It all just exists to make the google bot happy. And that works. They bring in more customers & revenue apparently. (honestly,…

  1. Good old days, humans talk to humans.
  2. Someone invents a bot, humans talk to bots.
  3. Someone invents another bot, bots talk to bots.
This is the story of SEO, banner ads, stock trading, consumer pricing.

There are probably many other cases.

The tech help spam: initially an attempt for a bot to talk to a human, but with LLMs crawling search results and aggregating answers, your answer to "how to start nginx" becomes the output of bot-bot interaction: an average of several generated answers (some initially and occasionally by humans).

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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post #6

It's the natural evolution of content marketing & SEO. I work at an IT company where we have ~15 ppl building and managing a few SaaS apps for the travel industry, and we have 50-60 ppl doing marketing as a service for our customers. They write page after page of content that barely get read. It all just exists to make the google bot happy. And that works. They bring in more customers & revenue apparently. (honestly,…

Those 60 people can have a new job: fact checking the lies that the new ais produce

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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If AI can write articles that fool Google, Google can use AI to detect it. Heck, maybe there will be an AI model that specifically recognizes AI content and can be used to filter it out. A lot of electricity spent for nothing, but it's not like the human species hasn't been its own worst enemy since it appeared.

SEO optimized turds have been floating to the top of google results for years and google hasn't done anything to effectively combat it. Why would this be something that google would do something about?
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