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Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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> THE FRUIT UNION Suisse is 111 years old. For most of its history, it has had as its symbol a red apple with a white cross—the Swiss national flag superimposed on one of its most common fruits. But the group, the oldest and largest fruit farmer’s organization in Switzerland, worries it might have to change its logo, because Apple, the tech giant, is trying to gain intellectual property rights over depictions of appl…

I’m sure they’ve already tried to get a parent on that

That’s the joke

Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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The kind of ridiculous situation that arises when a company is drowning in money with no idea what to do about it. Make work for lawyers, Make work for engineers, share buybacks, no good vision on how to spend the money

> no good vision

Ah yes, years of continuing technical and product innovations, with "no good vision"

Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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Was puzzling they didn't include an image of said logo[1]. IIRC I've observed this for some other articles in the past covering trademark disputes. Is there a common reason they might do this? [1] https://www.swissfruit.ch/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/sov_new...

Trademarks, unlike copyright, are "use and protect it or lose it". There's no "expiry" date on them like copyrighted things have because brands sometimes live for over a hundred years. Letting someone take your companies name and logo just because you're "too old" isn't fair. This is because trademarks, unlike copyright, aren't about science and innovation; they're about preventing consumer confusion. Not protecting…

So what you're saying is that Apple is infringing on this Swiss company's trademark and must be forced to change their logo before logos with apples are irreversibly associated with Apple instead of the Swiss company?

Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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post #12

The kind of ridiculous situation that arises when a company is drowning in money with no idea what to do about it. Make work for lawyers, Make work for engineers, share buybacks, no good vision on how to spend the money

> no good vision Ah yes, years of continuing technical and product innovations, with "no good vision"

Attacking fruit sellers is not "a vision".

Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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I'd love to see an interview with one of these lawyers. What trauma does it take to warp a human mind into thinking you can own the concept of images of a fruit? Or is this a case of pure sociopathy and the rule of law is the only thing stopping these guys from torturing animals and running over kids in the street?

Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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> THE FRUIT UNION Suisse is 111 years old. For most of its history, it has had as its symbol a red apple with a white cross—the Swiss national flag superimposed on one of its most common fruits. But the group, the oldest and largest fruit farmer’s organization in Switzerland, worries it might have to change its logo, because Apple, the tech giant, is trying to gain intellectual property rights over depictions of appl…

There should be a penalty for such bogus trademark claims, best as % of the global revenue. Then, maybe, they would learn that a corporation cannot bully others only because it has unlimited legal resources.

Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trademarks, unlike copyright, are "use and protect it or lose it". There's no "expiry" date on them like copyrighted things have because brands sometimes live for over a hundred years. Letting someone take your companies name and logo just because you're "too old" isn't fair. This is because trademarks, unlike copyright, aren't about science and innovation; they're about preventing consumer confusion. Not protecting…

So what you're saying is that Apple is infringing on this Swiss company's trademark and must be forced to change their logo before logos with apples are irreversibly associated with Apple instead of the Swiss company?

No kidding. I'd love to see the bigger company loose their logo in one of these petty trademark disputes someday.

Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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It would be fun if they lost also the trademark of any apple-related image, including their silly bitten apple logo.

Really, fuck IP and trademark laws. I see it as a net negative. I would rather throw this cursed baby away along with its shit water.

Re: Apple wants rights to the image of apples in Switzerland

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Was puzzling they didn't include an image of said logo[1]. IIRC I've observed this for some other articles in the past covering trademark disputes. Is there a common reason they might do this? [1] https://www.swissfruit.ch/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/sov_new...

Trademarks, unlike copyright, are "use and protect it or lose it". There's no "expiry" date on them like copyrighted things have because brands sometimes live for over a hundred years. Letting someone take your companies name and logo just because you're "too old" isn't fair. This is because trademarks, unlike copyright, aren't about science and innovation; they're about preventing consumer confusion. Not protecting…

The way you describe it is a myth. Half of the 'genericized' products were done so as a concession of WW1 or the company willfully choosing something overly generic for royalties or poor circumstances (flip phone, videotape, respectively). The rest expired, were caught in disputes with other companies, or occurred before expansions of copyright law.

You'll notice the rest of the page is legally protected trademarks that have NOT expired, despite common and generic use by individuals. Hoover did not lose their brand, nor Kleenex.

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