Gut Reaction: In what ways is this different from woman nurses in American hospitals regularly working 12-hour (or longer) shifts?
Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
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Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
#12Gut Reaction: In what ways is this different from woman nurses in American hospitals regularly working 12-hour (or longer) shifts?
Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
#13Gut Reaction: In what ways is this different from woman nurses in American hospitals regularly working 12-hour (or longer) shifts?
Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
#14Do men already have this permission? If so, I don't see why women shouldn't.
Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
#15Gut Reaction: In what ways is this different from woman nurses in American hospitals regularly working 12-hour (or longer) shifts?
Perhaps it's not worse, but why do we reflexively set the bar at the worst working conditions we can think of?
Or a symptom of sheltered & pampered western office workers - who at times seem to view normal, physical work as a human rights violation.
Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
#16If I'm following the numbers correctly it seems to functionally come out at max of ~60h/week where ~12 of that would be at an overtime rate. Not sure what that compares to before but it sounds like an increase in both base and overtime limits. Interesting the night shift wasn't allowed for women before.
Previous was max shift of 9 hours and max overtime of 75 hours per three months. Now it is 12 hour shifts with 145 hours of overtime per three months. So yeah, this comes at 5x12 shifts.
A 5x12 shift would require 1/5 of the time to be classified as overtime. Indian labour laws seem to state that overtime must be paid at 2x regular wages.
Almost seems like it would make sense to hire more people and have them work 4x12?
Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
#17I have very little understanding of India. While reading the article, it sounds like the changes to Indian labor law would enable more hours to be worked. However, I don't understand whether this is a good or bad thing for the average worker (and/or woman) in India. Can someone provide more insight? Thanks.
Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
#18I have very little understanding of India. While reading the article, it sounds like the changes to Indian labor law would enable more hours to be worked. However, I don't understand whether this is a good or bad thing for the average worker (and/or woman) in India. Can someone provide more insight? Thanks.
In general, women participation in workforce is outright abysmal in India. Hopefully this will be on of the many small steps towards addressing that.
Re: Apple and Foxconn win permission for 12-hour shifts for women in India
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps it's not worse, but why do we reflexively set the bar at the worst working conditions we can think of?
If tens (or hundreds?) of thousands of rather well-paid American professionals are also working in the conditions mentioned (12-hour shifts), then I assume that the headline is "anything that says 'Apple'" clickbait. Or a symptom of sheltered & pampered western office workers - who at times seem to view normal, physical work as a human rights violation.