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What will be the second order effects widespread AI?

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Re: What will be the second order effects widespread AI?

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Post by monkeydust »

mathieuh wrote: post #7
monkeydust wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Startrek like, pursuit of personal and society goals?...although we haven't solved for finite resources (yet)

I admit I don't know much about Startrek, but from descriptions I've read of their society it sounds pretty good to me. A society where basic needs are taken care of, and beyond that–as long as you aren't hurting anyone or infringing on anyone else's liberty–freedom to do what you believe is most valuable.

This was a decent attempt at trying to explain the economics around startrek if your interested. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trekonomics-Economics-Star-Manu-Saa...

A nice change from all the dystopian reading!

Re: What will be the second order effects widespread AI?

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Post by mathieuh »

jstx1 wrote: post #5
mathieuh wrote: post #3

Hopefully breaking the link between people's labour and their worth as a human. I hope that as more and more things become automated and fewer people need to work, that we restructure society so they don't have to do bullshit jobs or work if they don't want to. Unfortunately, people have been hoping for this for as long as there has been machinery which multiplied humans' labour and it's yet to materialise, but I rem…

If bullshit job are really bullshit, do we really need AI in order to make them obsolete?

That's what I mean when I say labour is linked to people's worth. In our societies we place a lot of stock in what job people perform, and people who don't work at all are often looked down upon in mainstream discourse, regardless of the circumstances.

Re: What will be the second order effects widespread AI?

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Post by mathieuh »

monkeydust wrote: post #11
mathieuh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I admit I don't know much about Startrek, but from descriptions I've read of their society it sounds pretty good to me. A society where basic needs are taken care of, and beyond that–as long as you aren't hurting anyone or infringing on anyone else's liberty–freedom to do what you believe is most valuable.

This was a decent attempt at trying to explain the economics around startrek if your interested. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trekonomics-Economics-Star-Manu-Saa... A nice change from all the dystopian reading!

Thanks, I'll take a look!

Re: What will be the second order effects widespread AI?

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Post by is_true »

causi wrote: post #9

Content-generation AI is advancing much faster than others. There's still little AI in the realm of, say, voice assistants. I can't say "Hey google, take me to the McDonald's that beside the Best Buy."

I find it hard to believe that google can't solve that query now

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Post by monk_e_boy »

Will we become like horses did over this century. Horses did a lot of the work and millions of them were needed.

Now we keep horses cos they are nice and fun to have, but we don't need millions of them.

Why would an AI need billions of people? I wonder what society will look like in 100 years time.

Also, AI cures aging.

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Post by maxerickson »

simonmesmith wrote: post #10

An increasing percentage of people’s relationships will be with AI versus other humans. A conversation with GPT-3 can already be more enjoyable, given the right prompts, than conversations with many people. This will only get more powerful as AIs increasingly adapt themselves to conversational partners through the addition of longer-term memory (e.g. remembering your favorite foods, and so forth). It will be incredib…

If the genius AI gets to decide what to optimize for, what's going to keep it chatting with a dunce?

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Post by resiros »

Social unrest in the global south with deep repercussions on the relation between developed and developing countries.

In the next 25 years, it is likely that many jobs currently held by human beings will be replaced by AI. This shift will predominantly affect workers in fields such as production and lower-level white-collar jobs. Although this change will also create new opportunities for employment, less developed countries are unlikely to benefit from these as much as more advanced economies.

The majority of positions that will be taken over by AI are typically found in sectors such as manufacturing, IT, and customer service - all of which are prevalent in underdeveloped nations.

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Post by an1sotropy »

For a short time, some kids will boast about their ability to spot a deepfake in some media, but then they will use "deepfake" more generally to say that something (not AI-generated) looks weird or bad. Eventually "deepfake" will come to mean "very fake" or just "fake", and "deep" as a general prefix will start getting used to mean "very" but in a disparaging way.
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