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Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?

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Re: Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?

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Post by super_mario »

chrisledet wrote: post #3
Joakal wrote: post #2

Job ads at indeed: http://www.indeed.com/jobanalytics/jobtrends?q=Java%2C+C%2B%... (Click Relative to see which are increasing compared to others more easily) Doesn't seem to be losing popularity among employers.

That's because their apps are written in Java and they need people to maintain them. Java isn't going anywhere for a while.

That's true only if by "apps" you mean web only. Java is not the most popular language/technology to turn to unless you are facing amazingly large scale or performance is critical.

For startups developing in Java is probably not a great idea, because startups need to respond to change fast and get things up and running fast, and languages like Python, Ruby, some kind of LISP are way better at that. You can always re-write your application in Java/Scala if performance/scale becomes an issue (a lot of startups dream about having those kinds of problems :D).

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apedley wrote: post #6
chrisledet wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because their apps are written in Java and they need people to maintain them. Java isn't going anywhere for a while.

I also find that jobs for Java are generally about maintaining or expanding old systems. The majority of jobs with newer companies or even newer projects at larger companies tend to involve C#, at least in my city.

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Re: Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?

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Post by chrisledet »

super_mario wrote: post #11
chrisledet wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because their apps are written in Java and they need people to maintain them. Java isn't going anywhere for a while.

That's true only if by "apps" you mean web only. Java is not the most popular language/technology to turn to unless you are facing amazingly large scale or performance is critical. For startups developing in Java is probably not a great idea, because startups need to respond to change fast and get things up and running fast, and languages like Python, Ruby, some kind of LISP are way better at that. You can always re-…

I actually worked for a startup who wanted who wanted their apps written in Java because it "scales". To this day they don't realize hardware is cheaper than deveopers.

Re: Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?

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Post by ComputerGuru »

chrisledet wrote: post #14
super_mario wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true only if by "apps" you mean web only. Java is not the most popular language/technology to turn to unless you are facing amazingly large scale or performance is critical. For startups developing in Java is probably not a great idea, because startups need to respond to change fast and get things up and running fast, and languages like Python, Ruby, some kind of LISP are way better at that. You can always re-…

I actually worked for a startup who wanted who wanted their apps written in Java because it "scales". To this day they don't realize hardware is cheaper than deveopers.

Hardware isn't cheaper than developers when working on massive scale.

See this: http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/C-and-Beyond-2011-Herb-Sutter...

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