Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?
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Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?
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#2Job ads at indeed: http://www.indeed.com/jobanalytics/jobtrends?q=Java%2C+C%2B%... (Click Relative to see which are increasing compared to others more easily)
Doesn't seem to be losing popularity among employers.
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#3Job ads at indeed: http://www.indeed.com/jobanalytics/jobtrends?q=Java%2C+C%2B%... (Click Relative to see which are increasing compared to others more easily) Doesn't seem to be losing popularity among employers.
That's because their apps are written in Java and they need people to maintain them. Java isn't going anywhere for a while.
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#4Java is the "hammer" in the metaphorical IT toolbox. Sure, niche and very useful tools are in the toolbox too, and all have their place, but ... to stretch the metaphor a little further, no toolbox is complete without a hammer. to any real developer, popularity is an irrelevant metric
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#5How often do developers get to truly choose the language they use? Developers usually go where the jobs are. There are a lot of Java systems out there. Doesn't necessarily mean Java is or isn't a "popular" language. I'd be more interested if there is any data on how many newly started projects are using Java compared to other environments.
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#6Job ads at indeed: http://www.indeed.com/jobanalytics/jobtrends?q=Java%2C+C%2B%... (Click Relative to see which are increasing compared to others more easily) Doesn't seem to be losing popularity among employers.
That's because their apps are written in Java and they need people to maintain them. Java isn't going anywhere for a while.
I also find that jobs for Java are generally about maintaining or expanding old systems.
The majority of jobs with newer companies or even newer projects at larger companies tend to involve C#, at least in my city.
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#7Java is the new COBOL.
Re: Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?
#8How often do developers get to truly choose the language they use? Developers usually go where the jobs are. There are a lot of Java systems out there. Doesn't necessarily mean Java is or isn't a "popular" language. I'd be more interested if there is any data on how many newly started projects are using Java compared to other environments.
How often do developers get to truly choose the language they use?
Every day
There's absolutely nothing stopping any developer from learning other skills and changing jobs. I was an enterprise dev that taught myself Ruby in the evenings until I had enough skill to move away from the enterprise world. I've been making a living from Ruby coding for just over 3 years now (probably worth noting that I'm almost 40 and have 4 kids). Pay is slightly less, but work satisfaction is so much higher is't a joke.
Seriously, your current employer might not let you change, but you don't have to stay with them forever. It's your life, not theirs
[Edited to add: I see comment here about job ads. What I discovered early on is that in the Ruby world, and probably Python et al, most jobs are got via reputation or mailing lists. pretty much never on mainstream job boards]
Re: Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?
#9How often do developers get to truly choose the language they use? Developers usually go where the jobs are. There are a lot of Java systems out there. Doesn't necessarily mean Java is or isn't a "popular" language. I'd be more interested if there is any data on how many newly started projects are using Java compared to other environments.
How often do developers get to truly choose the language they use? Every day There's absolutely nothing stopping any developer from learning other skills and changing jobs. I was an enterprise dev that taught myself Ruby in the evenings until I had enough skill to move away from the enterprise world. I've been making a living from Ruby coding for just over 3 years now (probably worth noting that I'm almost 40 and hav…
'Seriously, your current employer might not let you change, but you don't have to stay with them forever.'
And as we've seen with a lot of companies, they're certainly not going to stay with you forever.
Re: Is Java Really Losing Popularity Among Developers?
#10How often do developers get to truly choose the language they use? Developers usually go where the jobs are. There are a lot of Java systems out there. Doesn't necessarily mean Java is or isn't a "popular" language. I'd be more interested if there is any data on how many newly started projects are using Java compared to other environments.
"Developers usually go where the jobs are."
In some cases, I've seen jobs change their requirements some, simply because they can't find people when their requirements are tied to one specific tech. Not often, but more than I'd have expected.
Overall trend graphs may show one picture, but available people with required skills in a particular geographic area would show large differences in some areas (educated guess, at best, but seems to bear out via anecdotes from friends in my network).
The jobs that change tech requirements to expand the list of people that can use tend to be centered around smaller/shorter projects. A company that's been largely python by default for years may grudgingly open up their job search to php or ruby people, both in hopes that those people can pick up python, but also realize that they'll probably have new systems written in a new tech stack, and that's just the way it goes.
It would be easier for developers to 'go' where the jobs are if the 'going' was more able to be remote, but for many reasons that's still not a reality for the majority of tech workers.