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Messaging and chat control

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Re: Messaging and chat control

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Medical apartheid? What’s that referring to?

Presumably they're referring to requirements for vaccinations to attend large public gatherings. I think it's an absurd hyperbole, myself.

> large public gatherings.

In some counties it is much broader than that. Painting it as hyperbole sounds hollow if you are downplaying it yourself.

Re: Messaging and chat control

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post #10

Assuming this is correct (I only followed a couple of links, but it would be the EU planning to mandate content scan for CSAM on all e-mail and messaging platforms, after making it legal/optional already to do so earlier this year), I guess this answer the question of why Apple released their tech. While it made little sense on iCloud Photos, they can add the exact same client-side scanning to iMessage and keep it (m…

iMessage has an e2e backdoor on by default in the form of plaintext escrow via iCloud Backup (not e2e).

iMessage is, in practice today, no longer e2e.

Apple knows this and intentionally preserves this backdoor for the FBI:

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1ZK1CT

Re: Messaging and chat control

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Medical apartheid? What’s that referring to?

Presumably they're referring to requirements for vaccinations to attend large public gatherings. I think it's an absurd hyperbole, myself.

Is it really, though? Both child abuse and the pandemic are serious issues with real world victims, and both are riddled with privacy, anonymity and personal integrity issues. If we don't act against them, people will die/get hurt, and if we act against it in a Macchiavelian manner, democracy and quality of our life suffers enormously.

My observation is that in the name of: a) Covid b) Counterterrorism c) Child abuse almost everything can be presented as justifiable, at least to the mainstream media. The burden of questioning the rulers' decisions remains on us, and the limitations of personal freedom, both digital and physical, set a dangerous precendent to anything that might happen in the future.

Re: Messaging and chat control

#18
post #13

It's agendas like these when you realize submitting your country laws to legislation from Brusel was a fatal error.

Right on. Looking into ways of stopping this from happening has given me a very real feeling of desperation. There's no real way for an EU citizen to stop laws like these from getting accepted. No option for a referendum, no option for a veto, the best bet is getting the EU court to annul it, but that takes decades.

Re: Messaging and chat control

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I think this isn't getting nearly enough traction, especially considering how undemocratic EU's legislative procedures can get. Considering the lack of direct democracy in the European Union, exposure and public protest is the only viable way to oppose this legislature. There's also an ongoing petition against the legislature: https://www.openpetition.eu/petition/online/preserve-eprivac...

Hold your horses, put down the pitchforks. You realise the author is a _member of the European Parliament_??

And at least in my corner of EU we vote on who to send to EU parliament. You can vote on whoever you want in the national elections and then vote for the pirate party for the EU seat.

Edit: from your comment history I guess you vote far right, which is usually the part of EU pushing hardest for these measures??

Re: Messaging and chat control

#20
Looking forward to the 2050 Asshole Control Act that will mandate daily colonoscopies in case someone is hiding a pendrive with CP on it. Just in case. You wouldn’t be opposed, would you? What are you a nonce? Arrest the downvoter.
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