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The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

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Re: The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

#11
We just got the following response for an Ad trying to recruit for this job http://webnographer.theresumator.com/apply/ie1n7s/Remote-Use... in Portugal from a French internet site.

The response........

Unfortunately we can not publish it for the following reasons: - It is illegal in France to publish a job written in a language other than French

Meanwhile France has a high youth unemployment, etc etc

Re: The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

#12

Wow, this is absurd! The French official said “This would be a distortion of competition. If we allow Facebook and Twitter to be cited on air, it’s opening a Pandora’s Box —other social networks will complain to us saying, ‘why not us?’” Nobody is saying those other networks can't be mentioned. Maybe if they would improve, they /would/ be used and get mentioned. Does my service have a right to be promoted? No? Clearl…

I'm french, and I grew up with this law. So it doesn't sound absurd to me, but my opinion is biased. This has always existed (well apparently since 1992), and for every brand. But you are making a point that we cannot cite other brand, in fact, the law state that, if you cite one brand of the domain (here social network), you should also cite the others. And finally, I was watching french shows this week, and they frequently bypass the law by citing facebook and twitter.

Re: The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

#15
I think it makes sense in it's own weird way -- if the broadcaster had said "Call us on ...." it wouldn't have mattered because we don't know the service provider behind the phone number. But when they say "follow us on twitter" or "follow us on facebook" they are indirectly endorsing a particular service provider over other similar kinds of service providers.

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#16
post #8

The OP speaks about French resentment of Anglo-Saxon cultural encroachment as if it's some kind of childish French fixation ("That there is a deeply-rooted animosity in the French psyche towards Anglo-Saxon cultural domination cannot be disputed; indeed, it has been documented and analysed for decades.") But then, remember Freedom Fries and cheese-eating Surrender Monkeys, and it seems like we all have our childish s…

But it really is a silly childish thing. They made up "courriel" just so they didn't have to use "email". But electronic is électroniques in French (and both ultimately come from the Greek) and the English word "mail" is derived from Old French. It's an opportunity to underline the French in English and shared heritage I would have thought.

As the other comment points out, the things you point to weren't mandated by the State; I think the whole idea of the State controlling the language in such a way is insane.

Re: The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

#17

Wow, this is absurd! The French official said “This would be a distortion of competition. If we allow Facebook and Twitter to be cited on air, it’s opening a Pandora’s Box —other social networks will complain to us saying, ‘why not us?’” Nobody is saying those other networks can't be mentioned. Maybe if they would improve, they /would/ be used and get mentioned. Does my service have a right to be promoted? No? Clearl…

You're taking the problem from the wrong side.

It had always been forbidden to advertise anything owned by a private company except in some news directly related to it.

"Iran is revolting on Twitter" is relevant. "DSK did epic shit in a hotel, follow the news on twitter" is irrelevant. It sounds like a national channel advising to buy newspaper X every time to get more informations about the story.

While I personally understand both case, Twitter is a great communication channel, it's still owned by a private company, being quoted by a public channel.

The CSA is fighting against my second example, which would consider Facebook and Twitter no more as companies but as public tools, creating a bloody mess : when should we consider a private tool as a public one ? That's what they meant by opening the pandora box.

But of course, I strongly agree, crafting some absurd law is clearly a wrong measure but it's not absurd given the strict context we have here in France about national medias.

Re: The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

#18
Though the story is interesting, I'm flagging this article for extreme bias while trying to sound like a news outlet. The author took a law that makes a little sense and tries to find hidden agendas, self interests and contradictions in official reports with little or no evidence.

I'm sorry if this is not supposed to be a news article (even if the law is not new), but I really don't like explanatory articles throwing around words like "lunacy", "obviously", "inconceivable", "ludicrous", "ridiculous", "ironically" (where I couldn't find any irony), and so many others.

And this was the last drop: "The obvious answer is that regulators like to impose rules, if only to make themselves feel important."

(if you didn't read the article yet, it didn't end with that phrase, thankfully)

Re: The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

#19
The japanese solve this problem by writing all their "loan words" from other languages in a different script (katakana) whereas all native words are in either chinese characters (kanji) or the phonetic alphabet (hiragana).

I say the french do the same. Just require that all non-french words be typeset in Papyrus, or Comic Sans. Should deal with the issue nicely.

Re: The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

#20
post #8

The OP speaks about French resentment of Anglo-Saxon cultural encroachment as if it's some kind of childish French fixation ("That there is a deeply-rooted animosity in the French psyche towards Anglo-Saxon cultural domination cannot be disputed; indeed, it has been documented and analysed for decades.") But then, remember Freedom Fries and cheese-eating Surrender Monkeys, and it seems like we all have our childish s…

The French traditionally are very proud of French culture and (in the USA) have a stereotype of being very snobby about it.
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