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I used to mainly use Telegram but their broken notifications on Android turned me off. If a chat app can't get notifications right, it's not worth using.
I used to mainly use Telegram but their broken notifications on Android turned me off. If a chat app can't get notifications right, it's not worth using.
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Will win in terms of what? A lot of things in Telegram are done right, but that does not mean it will win the audience. Discord is a very good solution too, but I doubt people want to use it on their smartphones as a messenger.
The problem with Discord is that every single thing has their own server with 42 highly nuanced channels, intricate permissions and multiple utility bots. Then you have like 15 active users, all typing on #general Multiply this by 20 or so communities and it's an UX clusterfuck of epic proportions.
I used to mainly use Telegram but their broken notifications on Android turned me off. If a chat app can't get notifications right, it's not worth using.
They whitelist the above apps from their battery management systems and indiscriminately terminate everything else.
Summary - figure out how to whitelist telegram on ur phone and you should be fine.
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Will win in terms of what? A lot of things in Telegram are done right, but that does not mean it will win the audience. Discord is a very good solution too, but I doubt people want to use it on their smartphones as a messenger.
The problem with Discord is that every single thing has their own server with 42 highly nuanced channels, intricate permissions and multiple utility bots. Then you have like 15 active users, all typing on #general Multiply this by 20 or so communities and it's an UX clusterfuck of epic proportions.
I used to mainly use Telegram but their broken notifications on Android turned me off. If a chat app can't get notifications right, it's not worth using.
Whatsapp, facebook, messenger, twitter enjoy unfair advantage from device manufacturers. They whitelist the above apps from their battery management systems and indiscriminately terminate everything else. Summary - figure out how to whitelist telegram on ur phone and you should be fine.
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Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts/Voice/Talk/Meet/Allo/Whatever -- who will win? And without ads deeply ingrained (or highly addictive paid features like Discord has), does it matter? With the recent scrutiny of the DOJ, I wonder if Google and Facebook's business models are really all that sustainable or desirable. Discord seems to have the healthiest setup here.
Will win in terms of what? A lot of things in Telegram are done right, but that does not mean it will win the audience. Discord is a very good solution too, but I doubt people want to use it on their smartphones as a messenger.
Penetration, profitability, etc.
More broadly, what does the landscape look like in 5 years? 10 years?
I'm also skeptical that chat is worth as much as I'd once thought. If it's not paired with an enterprise solution (Slack, Teams, Hangouts/Allo/Meet/Whatever), it has to make money on ads or premium features (emotes, stickers, "server boosts").
Google and Facebook are about to get reamed by the DOJ for anti-competitive practices, and I'll wager that privacy is one of the talking points. If you can't use chat to enhance your advertising moat, what then? Sticker sales can't amount to that much, and ads without purchase intent or social graph knowledge are pretty low value.
I'm curious what people's thoughts are.
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Slack/Zoom/Teams/Whatever Google is running now is mostly dictated by what the company uses for their email. Pretty much no-one uses any of those for personal stuff, Slack does have some open-source project stuff in there. FB Messenger seems to be highly siloed, I never use it and I know only one person who uses it as their main communication platform. Whatsapp has reached critical mass in many countries outside of t…
I don't actually use it yet myself, but my hope is that Matrix will eventually be the end of having to care about which app someone else uses. That an incumbent or two will switch, and no new app would gain significant market share with a non-Matrix silo. I may just be dreaming though. Perhaps better bridges are the best we can realistically hope for.
I used to mainly use Telegram but their broken notifications on Android turned me off. If a chat app can't get notifications right, it's not worth using.
Whatsapp, facebook, messenger, twitter enjoy unfair advantage from device manufacturers. They whitelist the above apps from their battery management systems and indiscriminately terminate everything else. Summary - figure out how to whitelist telegram on ur phone and you should be fine.
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Whatsapp, facebook, messenger, twitter enjoy unfair advantage from device manufacturers. They whitelist the above apps from their battery management systems and indiscriminately terminate everything else. Summary - figure out how to whitelist telegram on ur phone and you should be fine.
Huh? That sounds wrong to me. Do you have a source for this?
Personal anecdote: even Google have been wishy-washy between different versions of Android when it comes from battery optimizations (Android 6/Marshmallow is the most hardest on this front), but at least it was documented. Imagine the pain of managing other brands (and it seems that all Android manufacturers engage on it one way or another).
Edit: in 2018, VideoLAN/VLC complained that Huawei agressively kills apps outside of its whitelist (https://twitter.com/videolan/status/1022033608670961665). There is no update on this one unfortunately, but I've heard that it was fixed in subsequent EmUI versions but there is no verification of that from VideoLAN or Huawei.
Edit edit: Unrelated to the notfications issue, benchmark scores are allegedly being tricked out by a certain chip manufacturer running the chips out-of-spec in a whitelist (https://www.techarp.com/mobile/mediatek-benchmark-cheating-2...).