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Re: Apple announces Apple Music radio

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They need to re-ramp the UI/UX on Apple music app. I have been using it for fairly long time and you can see how other competition like Youtube/Spotify have much nicer recommendations and ease of use. Some sort of streamline and unification needs to happen.

I try Apple Music about once a year. Only when they are offering a free trial. I always cancel the trial quickly. Apple Music is just bad. Ignoring my experience with a privacy violation that still makes me question Apple's commitment to privacy, nothing about Apple Music is enticing. Ignoring the confusing UI, music discovery is awful.

Apple has a large selection of songs it can pull from to know what I do and do not like, and could easily recommend things for me. The last time I checked out the recommendations, they were awful. Spotify? Spot on. =) Also, Spotify is just available everywhere I want it. Apple? Pretty much "Apple brand" or nothing. Apple is not the end-all of my universe. I'm sure Apple Music is fine if you ONLY use Apple products or listen via Apple approved products, but no one I know does that. Not even the iOS developers I know.

Anyways, even if you are a fan, you have to admit their offering is pretty lame.

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They need to re-ramp the UI/UX on Apple music app. I have been using it for fairly long time and you can see how other competition like Youtube/Spotify have much nicer recommendations and ease of use. Some sort of streamline and unification needs to happen.

Definitely agreed on recommendations, I've just been switching over from Spotify to Apple Music this week (adding aftermarket CarPlay and Spotify's support for that was a trainwreck). Overall I like Apple's app better across all platforms, except using web rather than native on Windows. On Apple's platforms it's snappier than Spotify, feels properly native, and is presumably better for battery life since it's not made of a bunch of Chrome instances glued together. But I definitely feel like I'm losing something with Discover Weekly and Release Radar.

Apple has their "For You" tab, but it's not as streamlined and the recommendations have been much more hit or miss.

Maybe it needs some more time to figure out my music tastes.

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Trying to understand. In a world of gazillions of radio shows online on so many platforms including direct and indirect competitors, with traditional shows going online, with platforms like pandora. Why two radio stations from one big company is such a big deal?

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They need to re-ramp the UI/UX on Apple music app. I have been using it for fairly long time and you can see how other competition like Youtube/Spotify have much nicer recommendations and ease of use. Some sort of streamline and unification needs to happen.

I try Apple Music about once a year. Only when they are offering a free trial. I always cancel the trial quickly. Apple Music is just bad. Ignoring my experience with a privacy violation that still makes me question Apple's commitment to privacy, nothing about Apple Music is enticing. Ignoring the confusing UI, music discovery is awful. Apple has a large selection of songs it can pull from to know what I do and do no…

I have to disagree pretty strongly. I have both Spotify and Apple Music, and the latter has spot on recommendations, sound quality, and the far better UX for me. Probably 80% of my listening time is in Apple Music. TIDAL seems better for lossless/master quality in my stereo setup but is really expensive, so I only sign up occasionally.

The only reason I use Spotify is sharing playlists with friends or on social media, which is something Apple Music recently added, but isn’t widely used. I will admit that Spotify has nailed The music sharing UX.

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Looks like they’re killing off the beats brand…

good. it's a terribly cheesy brand

The negative opinions on Beats often seem snobbish and dare I say bigoted. But I will admit it was a strange get for Apple as a brand.

Although I remember some gossip about them buying it mainly for the music licensing deals that Beats had, and probably the recording industry clout of Dr. Dre.

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They've been running Beats 1 for the last 5 years (now rebranding to just Apple Music 1). I like the idea of a pop & pop-adjacent radio station with a lot of different shows for different subgenres (it's obviously patterned after BBC Radio 1), but it never seemed to have the "right" mix of variety, and unlike Radio 1 it didn't really have any tentpole stuff to center around (like e.g. Essential Mix), just a lot of ra…

In terms of “tentpole” shows Elton John has hosted his for a long time and it’s fantastic. Josh Homme also does a great show (which seems to run in “seasons” rather than every week).

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I really don't understand what they've done with the Beats brand. They've released a handful of headphones (that in my experience have suffered an array of technical faults compared to reports from Airpods users) and Beats 1. Now they're killing off the latter.

It clearly fits into the Music product better but even after the corporate takeover there was something cool about "Beats" as a brand. It even sounded good in the stings. Oddly this is currently in Music as "Apple Music Beats 1" next to Hits and Country, which is even worse than one or the other.

The visual branding of all three stations is amateur too. Quite clearly so next to the Beats branding.

I wonder what the real success of the station has been - it seems to have all the right ingredients even if I'm not that interested after Julie left. It's always seemed a little discard by Apple, as it often is with these big tech companies and their side projects. If this was a business in its own right, as with Apple Music, I assume there'd be more publicity and a more competitive product.

Re: Apple announces Apple Music radio

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Beats 1 has been the free version of Apple Music service for some time, but no one really knew that because of disjointed marketing/branding. This is a good step in unifying the services into a cohesive set of offerings.

Okay, but why would I, someone who doesn't pay for Apple Music, care about a grand total of two new stations? You say This is a good step in unifying the services into a cohesive set of offerings, but honestly, as someone who tries out Apple Music once a year for free and then goes back to Spotify, I have one takeaway from this announcement.

Apple Music users are getting... 2 whole new stations. That's it. Oh, and a rebrand.

If this is supposed to be a big marketing push, they are doing a good job at encouraging me to stay on Spotify.

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