Does anyone know how they are scaling so gracefully?
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#12As a developer for some sleepy enterprise apps, I am very impressed at how companies like Zoom, Microsoft, and such can scale to handle this increased load so gracefully. I'm guessing this is just their website and not their actual app backend, but I'd imagine they had a huge spike there, too.
Given enough money, this isn't terribly difficult to accomplish with most cloud service providers. All of the major players offer automatic scaling based on load and multiple region support. There are still some gotchas at scale, but it is much easier to build out scalable infrastructure these days.
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#13That's only http traffic to the website, not people connecting via the app or via phone call . Most people use only the app or a phone call , for example to join a conference call hosted by someone else. Beyond business people on company-hosted calls, think students taking remote classes, grandmas connecting with their whole families, friends joining virtual happy hours, people playing social games, and so on. Worldw…
> That's only http traffic to the website ...
I suspect a good portion of that 700MM was simply people searching for Zoom to find out what is was, after hearing about it from others or in the news.
> Worldwide, I suspect around a couple billion people have recently used Zoom.
I recall seeing the number 200MM mentioned and I think that came from Zoom themselves (a blog post or something, maybe?) but don't hold me to that.
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#14I've commented in the past about Zoom's close ties with China (beyond its engineering staff) but I didn't have sources, so I conceded and redacted some specifics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22738420 WSJ just wrote an article interviewing the CEO and other security experts on this topic. Some interesting excerpts: > In the U.S., 27 attorney general’s offices have raised questions about privacy issues, Zoom s…
The links between Zoom and the Ministry of State Security (Chinese CIA) and the PLA are pretty profound. See this post I put together here: https://blog.12security.com/zoom-and-some-china-stuff/
In particular the company Bizconf, a Zoom sister company, is led by an executive from the Harbin Institute of Technology. Probably the most prestigious university in China (not well known here though) and the only one to be funded by both the MSS and PLA.
Interestingly, their apps load with a quick screenshot of a Mao quote..."the world will be ours".
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#15While zoom has faced many privacy concerns in the last few weeks, it is incredible how reliable the service has been given the massive spike in demand. Most services would have buckled (examples abound like robinhoods recent outage) and part of their stack would have not been able to handle the load. On top of that they are in new customer segments that I bet they didn’t see as their user base. I know more than a few…
> I know more than a few elementary school teachers who are now hosting zoom classes with 15+ 5 year olds on a call. Given the ease of setup of Zoom which defaulted to a machine-guessable URL which displayed email and other information about participants, this is one reason Zoom is rightly being scrutinized and criticized for poor security.
> Zoom which defaulted to a machine-guessable URL
Was there any rational for them doing this?
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#16I've commented in the past about Zoom's close ties with China (beyond its engineering staff) but I didn't have sources, so I conceded and redacted some specifics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22738420 WSJ just wrote an article interviewing the CEO and other security experts on this topic. Some interesting excerpts: > In the U.S., 27 attorney general’s offices have raised questions about privacy issues, Zoom s…
You can’t stand seeing success
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#17I've commented in the past about Zoom's close ties with China (beyond its engineering staff) but I didn't have sources, so I conceded and redacted some specifics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22738420 WSJ just wrote an article interviewing the CEO and other security experts on this topic. Some interesting excerpts: > In the U.S., 27 attorney general’s offices have raised questions about privacy issues, Zoom s…
You can’t stand seeing success
Perhaps I can't stand seeing the entire world having to bend down to an authoritarian regime (or any regime for that matter). Perhaps I can't stand the chilling effect current actions would create in the future: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I know more than a few elementary school teachers who are now hosting zoom classes with 15+ 5 year olds on a call. Given the ease of setup of Zoom which defaulted to a machine-guessable URL which displayed email and other information about participants, this is one reason Zoom is rightly being scrutinized and criticized for poor security.
> Zoom which defaulted to a machine-guessable URL Was there any rational for them doing this?
First thing that comes to my mind is: a friendly URL in a email body that doesn't get clipped or mangled in such away that it can't be easily opened.
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#19That's only http traffic to the website, not people connecting via the app or via phone call . Most people use only the app or a phone call , for example to join a conference call hosted by someone else. Beyond business people on company-hosted calls, think students taking remote classes, grandmas connecting with their whole families, friends joining virtual happy hours, people playing social games, and so on. Worldw…
> That's only http traffic to the website ... I suspect a good portion of that 700MM was simply people searching for Zoom to find out what is was, after hearing about it from others or in the news. > Worldwide, I suspect around a couple billion people have recently used Zoom. I recall seeing the number 200MM mentioned and I think that came from Zoom themselves (a blog post or something, maybe?) but don't hold me to t…
Is 200M the number of accounts or the number of people that have used the service, say over the past month? The latter is likely an order of magnitude greater than the former.
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#20That's only http traffic to the website, not people connecting via the app or via phone call . Most people use only the app or a phone call , for example to join a conference call hosted by someone else. Beyond business people on company-hosted calls, think students taking remote classes, grandmas connecting with their whole families, friends joining virtual happy hours, people playing social games, and so on. Worldw…
> That's only http traffic to the website ... I suspect a good portion of that 700MM was simply people searching for Zoom to find out what is was, after hearing about it from others or in the news. > Worldwide, I suspect around a couple billion people have recently used Zoom. I recall seeing the number 200MM mentioned and I think that came from Zoom themselves (a blog post or something, maybe?) but don't hold me to t…
200M daily active users according to their blog post https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/04/01/a-message-to-our-u...