There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
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Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#12There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Legally, does the state and federal goverment have the power to control the movement of people? Does the state have the power to control my movement from my own home to the end of the street for my daily walk?
That being said, it's a big scary step and there are lots of little steps likely to be taken before we get that far. You can see this in action in Italy.
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#13There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Even if people meet socially outside of work, they still aren't _required_ to go to work. Which means a lot of people can practice social distancing. People are scared, many will avoid groups (others may throw parties, but can't help that). I know in my neighborhood, everyone is outside but we are all maintaining 2 meter distance. Some neighbors even brought up their grills and stayed seperate but can talk (at a dist…
They're fining (~$140) and detaining people who don't follow the rules in France.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3...
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#14There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Legally, does the state and federal goverment have the power to control the movement of people? Does the state have the power to control my movement from my own home to the end of the street for my daily walk?
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#15There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Legally, does the state and federal goverment have the power to control the movement of people? Does the state have the power to control my movement from my own home to the end of the street for my daily walk?
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#16There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Even if people meet socially outside of work, they still aren't _required_ to go to work. Which means a lot of people can practice social distancing. People are scared, many will avoid groups (others may throw parties, but can't help that). I know in my neighborhood, everyone is outside but we are all maintaining 2 meter distance. Some neighbors even brought up their grills and stayed seperate but can talk (at a dist…
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/nyregion/Coronavirus-broo...
"Concern over the spread of coronavirus in Hasidic communities had already been raised by a series of large weddings held this week. On Tuesday, the Fire Department broke up one wedding celebration in Williamsburg that had more than 200 guests."
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#17There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
It was packed to the grills with schoolchildren in the playground, and their parents watching.
People aren't taking the rules seriously until you shut things down.
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#18There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Legally, does the state and federal goverment have the power to control the movement of people? Does the state have the power to control my movement from my own home to the end of the street for my daily walk?
Yes and no. I was curious, too.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/mass-quarantine-lockdown...
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#19There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#20There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Instead of the California approach, where you say "don't this, except for reasons 1 ... n", he's attacking the demand side. You can go out, but you don't have anywhere to go.
All of the problems get worse if you make people panic. My buddy who lives in northern upstate NY was just telling me about all of the people "bugging out" and taking their RVs up to the Adirondacks. If you tell people it's martial law, people will flee NYC Metro for wherever.
The other thing is that people will always be out. How do you deal with homeless people? Arrest them? How do you deal with people who claim to be medical people? How do you identify Trader Joe's employees? Are the police going to setup roadblocks? How do the police maintain a rosette stone of who is worthy of travel and who isnt?