I wonder if one should not use a dialer to call them back, sending an automated message until someone listens and acknowledges? They have a huge outbound capability, but their weak spot is inbound and call completion - they expect basically no call to complete. So anything that keeps their agents busy will immediately reflect on the number of calls they make. Would it be legal?
On the Trail of the RoboCall King
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#12For $20 US a year for an app, robocalls are down to a few a month from several a day on each of a VOIP and cell line. Nomorobo, Robokiller, and several more - do some research, read some reviews, and pick one. I only wish it was as easy to filter email spam for a 25-year-old email address. Telephone service providers may offer robocall filtering as well. One can deal with the problem now, or wait for Shaken/Stir, whi…
I pay for RoboKiller and still get 7-10 calls per day that make it through. It’s not a panacea.
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#13I don't understand why the robocalls are a thing. Why are robocalls able to cause such a stir? Why are they referred to as " robocalls " in the first place, when this is such a lowbrow term that it might imply that the victims are part of the problem, due to an inability to adequately cope with something that requires very little effort to deflect. To give them a special name, in and of itself, raises phonecall spam…
From TFA: Emergency room doctors, nurses, and first responders were getting delayed alerts. This was not just an annoyance; it was a matter of life and death. What is your "almost too easy" solution? Block all local calls? Have you applied for a job and expected a call back only to be directed to a cruise/timeshare?
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#14I wonder if one should not use a dialer to call them back, sending an automated message until someone listens and acknowledges? They have a huge outbound capability, but their weak spot is inbound and call completion - they expect basically no call to complete. So anything that keeps their agents busy will immediately reflect on the number of calls they make. Would it be legal?
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#16I wonder if one should not use a dialer to call them back, sending an automated message until someone listens and acknowledges? They have a huge outbound capability, but their weak spot is inbound and call completion - they expect basically no call to complete. So anything that keeps their agents busy will immediately reflect on the number of calls they make. Would it be legal?
I answer most robo calls and usually try to call back after I get them to hang up on me. The number is almost never in service. When it is and it leads to the scammer I'll sometimes continue calling and messing with them until my number is blocked by them. I've been messing with spam callers for more than 20 years. I wish more people would answer these calls and waste as much of their time as possible.
I don't know enough about the telephone system to know if number spoofing is something providers could prevent?
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#17I wonder if one should not use a dialer to call them back, sending an automated message until someone listens and acknowledges? They have a huge outbound capability, but their weak spot is inbound and call completion - they expect basically no call to complete. So anything that keeps their agents busy will immediately reflect on the number of calls they make. Would it be legal?
I answer most robo calls and usually try to call back after I get them to hang up on me. The number is almost never in service. When it is and it leads to the scammer I'll sometimes continue calling and messing with them until my number is blocked by them. I've been messing with spam callers for more than 20 years. I wish more people would answer these calls and waste as much of their time as possible.
Say you implement something like this: https://www.wombatdialer.com/blog/blog/2017/03/17/outbounds-... this is a reverse IVR, that keeps calling until it gets an explicit acknowledgement. It is cheap to run (you set up a FreePBX somewhere), it does not tire, and can go on until it gets a confirmation.
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#18Why are robocalls not a thing in my country? (Sweden)
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I answer most robo calls and usually try to call back after I get them to hang up on me. The number is almost never in service. When it is and it leads to the scammer I'll sometimes continue calling and messing with them until my number is blocked by them. I've been messing with spam callers for more than 20 years. I wish more people would answer these calls and waste as much of their time as possible.
At least in the UK, the calling number is nowadays almost always spoofed. I don't know enough about the telephone system to know if number spoofing is something providers could prevent?
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#20If everyone in the industry is getting rich from this and the FCC is serving industry and not the people, then the plan of action would quite probably look like this:
1. Pass laws that make robocalls illegal to pacify the populace.
2. Charge one or two operators a year in civil court max, but not enough to actually deter people from doing it. And make sure to brand them names like "the robocall king" so that people think you've actually made a huge dent in robo-calling. Again, to pacify the populace.
3. Don't actually enforce the laws you passed on any meaningful scale and don't require technological changes which would stop this. Despite the fact that it doesn't happen in any other country, even third world ones, pretend that this is just a technologically intractable problem.
Pathetic.