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What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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My husband has been patient through years of on-call duty and pages at all hours of day, night and weekends. He's been patient through all night maintenance duties and when I'm away for conferences or customer visits few times a year. I've been patient when his company adapted this agile practice that means a release until 4am every Wednesday. One thing I'm wondering about is the "get involved" advice: I'm a pretty m…

I feel the last part is just untrue. If s/he can't help in a coding capacity there are plenty of opportunities to help otherwise. It's akin to having a role in a family.

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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I forwarded this to my girlfriend. Thanks for providing an SO's perspective so that I can make the point that it's part of the game, and not just me.

If you have to resort to forwarding an online blog to her then my money's on her not changing her mind

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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Not sure how I feel about this anecdote - the SO is unusually accommodating, and it may be tempting to interpret this story as inspiration not to worry about relationships when you're working on a startup. (Or any bursty, time-demanding job, really.)

I've done a couple of startups, and went back to school a few years ago. My husband is a game developer. So I think it's not unreasonable to claim some familiarity with these issues. =)

The key is communication - especially for men, who are not always inclined to talk about relationships unless something is obviously wrong. Remember, women initiate most divorces and most men have no idea it's coming! You need to touch base regularly and make sure that problems aren't building up.

Engineers, think of the Rule of Tens: It's ten times harder to fix a problem after it's become a pattern than when it's fresh, and a hundred times harder to fix if your partner is prepared to break up over it.

Also, be sure to set aside regular times to spend together, and do everything in your power to avoid being sucked back into work. Occasional lapses are okay, but you can't expect to be someone's highest priority when you put them at the bottom of your priorities.

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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My husband has been patient through years of on-call duty and pages at all hours of day, night and weekends. He's been patient through all night maintenance duties and when I'm away for conferences or customer visits few times a year. I've been patient when his company adapted this agile practice that means a release until 4am every Wednesday. One thing I'm wondering about is the "get involved" advice: I'm a pretty m…

I feel the last part is just untrue. If s/he can't help in a coding capacity there are plenty of opportunities to help otherwise. It's akin to having a role in a family.

Of course there are plenty of opportunities to help. However, telling the GF "learn to code so you can help him with his projects" can lead to wrong expectations.

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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I feel the last part is just untrue. If s/he can't help in a coding capacity there are plenty of opportunities to help otherwise. It's akin to having a role in a family.

Of course there are plenty of opportunities to help. However, telling the GF "learn to code so you can help him with his projects" can lead to wrong expectations.

That's true, and I didn't necessarily mean that the gf could/would help code the actual project, but having a knowledge of the logic or syntax could be useful. Sometimes there's just a semicolon missing somewhere (etc.) and fresh eyes are needed to spot it, and a basic understanding of coding/that particular language could help in those situations.

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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Eh, not really a fan of this post. First, when I have to handle a 911 for our company, I cancel my plans and/or leave to fix it. I'd never hack from a restaurant table. My wife would rather me not be there than be hiding behind a laptop.

Plus, it shouldn't happen that often. If you're canceling plans and ignoring your SO on a frequent basis, then you're doing it wrong or you simply shouldn't be in a relationship.

"One of the best ways to combat this is to get involved yourself. Teach yourself to code ..."

This is totally unappealing to me unless you're already dating/married to a hacker/founder. Creating "artificial common ground" just so you can have more time with someone reeks of trouble to me.

(FYI, founder for 8+ years, married for 6, 4 kids)

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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Not sure how I feel about this anecdote - the SO is unusually accommodating, and it may be tempting to interpret this story as inspiration not to worry about relationships when you're working on a startup. (Or any bursty, time-demanding job, really.) I've done a couple of startups, and went back to school a few years ago. My husband is a game developer. So I think it's not unreasonable to claim some familiarity with…

Agreed. Communication, early and often, is key. And like the blog appropriately notes: patience, respect and understanding.

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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I suspect that this is only half the story. The other half has him being emotionally invested in the relationship, treating her like she's important, and doing all the other things that people in loving, healthy relationships do.

A well oiled relationship can accommodate disruptions and uncertainty, you just have to do the work necessary to make it "well oiled".

If your significant other won't tolerate these sort of things, then you should probably think hard about where your relationship stands.

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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Does this really happen? I've been involved in startups for the last 9 years (the last 4 as a technical founder). I can count on one hand the number of times I've pulled an all-nighter or even really worked through a weekend. Sure I work a bit more than the average person, but it's nothing like this.

I've had bugs popup on the weekend or during a vacation (and I do travel with my laptop everywhere I go). 99% of the time they fall into the 'we can live with that until Monday' category. My relationship with my wife and friends is simply too important to let something as trivial as a startup get in the way of it.

I just can't help but feel like we're continuing to romanticize this workaholic culture. That somehow to be a 'real' entrepreneur you have to turn your whole life over to it.

This is one place that I agree with the guys from 37 signals. You don't have to kill yourself to make a business go. You don't have to work 80 (or 120) hour weeks.

Starting a business is a marathon, and like all marathons it requires pacing. A large part of that is learning to separate the real emergencies from the perceived ones. Just because something isn't working, it doesn't mean that your business will fall over if it continues not to work for 48 hours. That sort of triage is really important if your going to maintain your sanity to get to the fourth year.

Just how I see it at least. My wife would certainly write a very different article than this one.

Re: What it's like to be the SO of a start-up founder.

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I forwarded this to my girlfriend. Thanks for providing an SO's perspective so that I can make the point that it's part of the game, and not just me.

Boys, can I give you some friendly advice from a married man here? Don't send this story to your partner. You will send the message: compare yourself to this saintly blogger. It's a lose-lose. Best case: she simply barfs and laughs it off. Worst case? Never mind.

Instead arrange for her to accidentally stumble upon it. Better yet, if you can arrange to have her befriend the blogger in question without mentioning anything...

Barring that, pay the utmost attention to her whenever you are together.

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