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Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by Zofren »

jackthrow1 wrote: post #7
padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Sir, gently revoke thyself from this thread with your blatant antisemitism/antizionisn.

Not to lean either way, but it would be nice if it was possible to criticize Israel without it being conflated with antisemitism. Criticizing Saudi Arabia, for example, doesn't typically cause people to assume I'm criticizing Islam.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by Pica_soO »

padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Yes, israel is the only super-powered country in the region. To blame for all that is awry in the region. I once made holidays on a cruise ship- and as soon as we neared haifa the port, i suffered erectile dysfunction. I blame those xanadoonians!

At this point, israel is about to become a new Arabic word for "shirking ones responsibility as a adult" - that's certainly what i hear when they rage on and on about it.

Of course, the grapes might be sour, because if your neighbor gets something done, with his piece of dessert in the sun, and you dont- something uncomfortable creeps into the daylight. Maybe not all cultures create equally worthwhile outcomes - given the current circumstances.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

jackthrow1 wrote: post #7
padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Sir, gently revoke thyself from this thread with your blatant antisemitism/antizionisn.

What's with the ye olde language anyway?

Also it's not bad to criticize a state for dickish behaviour. That's not antizionism, that's calling a spade a spade.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by badminton1 »

jackthrow1 wrote: post #7
padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Sir, gently revoke thyself from this thread with your blatant antisemitism/antizionisn.

"anti" = opposition.

Opposition can have various degrees.

The terms you used are often reserved for substantial prejudice and discrimination (see Allport's scale).

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by liotier »

yahoo234 wrote: post #4
padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Gaza is ¬1M people and has received tens of BN$ of aid. Israel has withdrawn all its forces from Gaza 10 years ago. At what stage do Gazan start behaving like responsible adults rather than blaming the Great Satan?

> At what stage do Gazan start behaving like responsible adults rather than blaming the Great Satan?

I stopped breaking your legs - at what stage do you start behaving like a responsible adult and run again rather than blaming me ?

Also, Israel's chokehold on Gaza has relaxed - but it is still a chokehold. And Egypt isn't helping either. How do you expect Gaza to function without an airport (destroyed by Israel), without a significant harbour and without even reasonably permeable land crossings ?

For some recent history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by Vinnl »

jackthrow1 wrote: post #5
mustuhfa wrote: post #2

Having worked closely with GSG for the last few years and done 2 trips there to mentor and host workshops, I would encourage anybody who has the time and interest in sharing their knowledge to reach out to them and help them. As the saying goes that constraint breeds creativity, I have never meet a more energetic, enthusiastic bunch of people who just want to make themselves useful and build something that they can b…

Be more precise. What kinda help they need? I aint got money, are they still enthusiatic about taking non-monetary help? Or is the help in such case simply reduced to "well contact them and ask them if they need anything" (in this case I can tell you their answer even without bothering to email them: "nah, we only need money bruh")? I assure you that I dont have nothing against Gaza and its inhabitants, what irritate…

I would assume the GP means "to mentor and host workshops".

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by Khol »

jackthrow1 wrote: post #5
mustuhfa wrote: post #2

Having worked closely with GSG for the last few years and done 2 trips there to mentor and host workshops, I would encourage anybody who has the time and interest in sharing their knowledge to reach out to them and help them. As the saying goes that constraint breeds creativity, I have never meet a more energetic, enthusiastic bunch of people who just want to make themselves useful and build something that they can b…

Be more precise. What kinda help they need? I aint got money, are they still enthusiatic about taking non-monetary help? Or is the help in such case simply reduced to "well contact them and ask them if they need anything" (in this case I can tell you their answer even without bothering to email them: "nah, we only need money bruh")? I assure you that I dont have nothing against Gaza and its inhabitants, what irritate…

In some cases offering money _is_ the best way to offer support. When goods are donated they're often not what's actually needed, or not in the proportions required. Planet Money covered this in an episode: https://www.npr.org/2015/11/27/457565052/food-banks-pickle-g... (transcript rather than episode link). This relates to food banks, but it also affects other organizations: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/03/aid-workers-at... .

If you can't offer that support then I suspect that spreading the word about these projects is the next best thing.

Edited to add additional links, tidy up language.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by tariandbari »

padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

It takes some real unique ability to look at Gaza's map and missing the fact that it has a very long border with ... Egypt. So even if Gaza is an "open air prison" there is more than one guard to it.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by bengrunfeld »

It is disgusting that the BBC uses "coding" as the clickbait, and then proceeds to use nearly 50% of the article to discuss politics. We all know the politics, but this felt like a cheap way to get us to discuss it, even though what we really wanted was to read about tech in Gaza. It's articles like these that fuel the conflict by "sneaking one over" the readers to try to sway their opinion one way or another.

UPDATE: 3 of the 5 pieces of non-text media discuss politics and war rather than tech. Do you need any more proof?

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by MarceColl »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9
jackthrow1 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sir, gently revoke thyself from this thread with your blatant antisemitism/antizionisn.

Why are you confusing antisemitism and antizionism? The poster is criticising the actions of a state, that's not anti-semitism in any way. He didn't even say anything about jews or judaism.

Don't bother, he created a throwaway just to say stupid shit. There's no point in following his game, downvote, flag and ignore is the best course of action.
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