Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by goodcanadian » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 8:15 AM UTC

Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone
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Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by mustuhfa » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 9:30 AM UTC

Having worked closely with GSG for the last few years and done 2 trips there to mentor and host workshops, I would encourage anybody who has the time and interest in sharing their knowledge to reach out to them and help them. As the saying goes that constraint breeds creativity, I have never meet a more energetic, enthusiastic bunch of people who just want to make themselves useful and build something that they can be proud of while helping themselves. As unfortunate as their situation is, it does not stop them or the GSG crew and I believe that one day in the future, this effort will have laid the foundations for a vibrant and impactful engineering community. If anyone has any questions, please ask away and I can answer.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by padraic7a » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 9:41 AM UTC

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU.

Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade contrvene's international law.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by yahoo234 » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 9:54 AM UTC

padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Gaza is ¬1M people and has received tens of BN$ of aid.

Israel has withdrawn all its forces from Gaza 10 years ago.

At what stage do Gazan start behaving like responsible adults rather than blaming the Great Satan?

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by jackthrow1 » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 9:55 AM UTC

mustuhfa wrote: post #2

Having worked closely with GSG for the last few years and done 2 trips there to mentor and host workshops, I would encourage anybody who has the time and interest in sharing their knowledge to reach out to them and help them. As the saying goes that constraint breeds creativity, I have never meet a more energetic, enthusiastic bunch of people who just want to make themselves useful and build something that they can b…

Be more precise. What kinda help they need? I aint got money, are they still enthusiatic about taking non-monetary help? Or is the help in such case simply reduced to "well contact them and ask them if they need anything" (in this case I can tell you their answer even without bothering to email them: "nah, we only need money bruh")?

I assure you that I dont have nothing against Gaza and its inhabitants, what irritates me is that you encourage to help them, yet you use the language so vague that it sounds more like an advertisement of their "future vibrant community" (yea, without actual drinking water and severe overpopulation, but with computers, sure, sounds plausible), without any clearly pronounced areas where they need help, except of money of course.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by sgift » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 9:56 AM UTC

yahoo234 wrote: post #4

padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Gaza is ¬1M people and has received tens of BN$ of aid. Israel has withdrawn all its forces from Gaza 10 years ago. At what stage do Gazan start behaving like responsible adults rather than blaming the Great Satan?

Probably the moment the 'Great Satan' stops to control all flow of goods into and out of the Gaza. It's easy to say Israel has withdrawn when all they did was move a few kilometers further out.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by jackthrow1 » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 9:56 AM UTC

padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Sir, gently revoke thyself from this thread with your blatant antisemitism/antizionisn.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by badminton1 » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 9:58 AM UTC

Note that the article quickly turns political, and often the follow up political discussion is not welcome here on HN.

It will take a lot of restraint for those kids to stay in development.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by PlutoIsAPlanet » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 10:00 AM UTC

jackthrow1 wrote: post #7

padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Sir, gently revoke thyself from this thread with your blatant antisemitism/antizionisn.

Why are you confusing antisemitism and antizionism?

The poster is criticising the actions of a state, that's not anti-semitism in any way. He didn't even say anything about jews or judaism.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Post by padraic7a » Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 10:00 AM UTC

yahoo234 wrote: post #4

padraic7a wrote: post #3

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

Gaza is ¬1M people and has received tens of BN$ of aid. Israel has withdrawn all its forces from Gaza 10 years ago. At what stage do Gazan start behaving like responsible adults rather than blaming the Great Satan?

Israel continues to block access to 35% of the arable land in Gaza, and to prevent access to 85% of it's waters. The Israeli blockade prevents access to food, fuel and medical supplies.