When the scientific conclusions are rapidly changing like this, I hope our leaders will have the wisdom to change recommendations and policy slowly while this plays out.
No Amount of Alcohol Use Is Safe, Analysis of Studies Finds
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#12When the scientific conclusions are rapidly changing like this, I hope our leaders will have the wisdom to change recommendations and policy slowly while this plays out.
This isn't a rapid change. We've known this for years.
The only reason people are unsure about this is the multi-million dollar industry spending huge amounts on bad science and press releases.
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#13Sorry but I’m pretty sure drinking 1 glass of beer every day is not going to cause a major increase in road injuries or self harm. That just doesn’t make sense.
They're talking about a small effect across a large population on an uncommon event.
Your small glass of beer most days isn't doing much to you, but across the population it means you have thousands of extra accidents.
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#14When the scientific conclusions are rapidly changing like this, I hope our leaders will have the wisdom to change recommendations and policy slowly while this plays out.
This isn't a rapid change. We've known this for years. The only reason people are unsure about this is the multi-million dollar industry spending huge amounts on bad science and press releases.
Multi-million? More like hundreds of billions.
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#15I thought the article was about how even small amounts of alcohol were bad for the health but there's just a line about it and no link to the study. The rest is about heavy drinkers, which seems like nothing new.
The title directly contradicts an article that appeared recently in the Guardian [1] (although as you say the title hardly seems appropriate given the content of the article)
A slightly better summary can be found at [2] which explains the differences better (i.e. moderate drinking lowers risk of dementia and heard disease, but increases the chance of e.g. accidents)
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/03/alcoho...
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#16While it's true that there is undisputed epidemiological evidence as to positive effects of moderate alcohol use on health for some people, at the molecular level there's no getting away from the toxicity of ethanol and its breakdown product - the unpleasantly reactive acetaldehyde. Ethanol itself denatures proteins. Certainly a conundrum. Maybe part of the answer is in the side effects of the enhanced detoxification mechanisms in the liver in response to alcohol intake. I suspect there are some interesting findings that await discovery.
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#17While it's true that there is undisputed epidemiological evidence as to positive effects of moderate alcohol use on health for some people, at the molecular level there's no getting away from the toxicity of ethanol and its breakdown product - the unpleasantly reactive acetaldehyde. Ethanol itself denatures proteins. Certainly a conundrum. Maybe part of the answer is in the side effects of the enhanced detoxification…
> While it's true that there is undisputed epidemiological evidence as to positive effects of moderate alcohol use on health for some people
Where "some people" only includes women over 50, and "moderate drinking" means "three or four drinks per week" - far less than most people think of as moderate drinking, especially in the UK where 2 large glasses of wine a day is seen as normal.
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#18For anyone that’s looking to drink less or moderate their consumption I’d recommend a book by Annie grace called this naked mind. I’m about two weeks past finishing the book and although I haven’t stopped drinking, I’ve had the first real mental shift in how I view alcohol consumption. She was a high functioning, heavy drinker and she dives into the unconscious mind and societal norms/pressures around consuming alcohol. I have a hard time picturing a life without ever drinking again (which is sad in and of itself) but I’m on the mental path of reducing considerably without counting drinks or time till I can have my next one.
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#19Remember that, no matter how commonly used it is, alcohol is still a neurotoxic solvent whose purpose is to diminish or impair cognitive function to various ends.
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#20I will not read an article where the first thing happening is the embeded video starting to play. I do not event whant to load that Video on my mobile phone if i do not click on it. If i open a Video site on YouTube, i know that i want to See a Video, but even there the Video doesnt load without my interaction. If i open an article, i definitly dont want to watch a Video.