No Amount of Alcohol Use Is Safe, Analysis of Studies Finds
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#2> The main causes of alcohol-related deaths in the 15-to-49 age group were tuberculosis, road injuries and self-harm
Tuberculosis? That's interesting.
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#3Let's try Prohibition again, it might not fund organized crime, bolster the paramilitary-police-industrial-political complex, destroy nations, elect Kennedy's or get thousands murdered this time around. :unrealistic utopian fingers crosssed:
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#4> The main causes of alcohol-related deaths in the 15-to-49 age group were tuberculosis, road injuries and self-harm Tuberculosis? That's interesting.
> the biggest drinkers were in European countries. The average Romanian man drank the equivalent of 8.2 bottles of beer a day in 2016, the most in the world.
Tuberculosis is more common in Eastern Europe. Poor, homeless or incarcerated people often get it. Those segments are more likely to abuse alcohol. Not sure on the direct causation part. It weakens the immune system perhaps.
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#5I thought the article was about how even small amounts of alcohol were bad for the health but there's just a line about it and no link to the study. The rest is about heavy drinkers, which seems like nothing new.
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#6Sorry but I’m pretty sure drinking 1 glass of beer every day is not going to cause a major increase in road injuries or self harm. That just doesn’t make sense.
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#7This [0] was previously on HN, and it changed my attitude towards alcohol consumption into one much closer to abstinence.
In the past I've used Cysteine and Thiamine supplements for effective hangover prevention [1]. But after learning the same acetaldehyde largely responsible for the hangover effects is carcinogenic. Having had experienced firsthand the effectiveness of Cysteine targeting the acetaldehyde in my head, it became very clear consuming this poison, ethanol, should be avoided in general.
[0] https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/did-drinking-gi...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteine#Reducing_toxic_effect...
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#8I thought the article was about how even small amounts of alcohol were bad for the health but there's just a line about it and no link to the study. The rest is about heavy drinkers, which seems like nothing new.
This is generally true for most of these studies. They rarely look at low alcohol consumption, and then extrapolate to it being true for all levels. They also tend to quite heavily correct for morbidity among those who drink no alcohol. It’s a good idea, but often not made clear to the end reader.
My general perception is that maybe small amounts of alcohol aren’t necessarily good for you (which was previously thought) and may just be neutral. Moderate drinking certainly doesn’t seem as significant for morbidity/mortality as smoking or obesity from the current evidence.
Plus at the end of the day, everything carries risk. It is about deciding what is worth a slight risk. I don’t get the focus on demonising small amounts of alcohol. Even if it increases risk slightly, it provides joy to many people and encourages socialisation- important to improving both quality of life and health. There are much bigger fish to fry than moderate alcohol consumption.
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#10I thought the article was about how even small amounts of alcohol were bad for the health but there's just a line about it and no link to the study. The rest is about heavy drinkers, which seems like nothing new.
This is generally true for most of these studies. They rarely look at low alcohol consumption, and then extrapolate to it being true for all levels. They also tend to quite heavily correct for morbidity among those who drink no alcohol. It’s a good idea, but often not made clear to the end reader. My general perception is that maybe small amounts of alcohol aren’t necessarily good for you (which was previously though…
We know that women over 50 may get some small benefit from drinking low amounts of alcohol regularly - about 2 small glasses of wine a week.
We know those advantages don't happen for anyone else.
The evidence is unclear to the general public because a multi-million dollar industry (especially in the UK) keeps pushing inaccurate information to print media who suck at science and health reporting.
> There are much bigger fish to fry than moderate alcohol consumption.
When we ask people how much they drink they all say "not much", and then when we check what they actually drink it's often far more.
Here's a guy who thought he was drinking moderately when he was drinking far more than the recommended maximum.