So,basically, this threatens his business so he rants about it.
Fair enough be concerned for your business - but attacking DDG and Google for it is unlikely to win favours :P
Say goodbye to search analytics
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#12I wonder if Google Analytics still manages to store the search data?
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#13Technical reason:
Referers aren't sent when transitioning from an SSL page to a non-SSL page - to get the referer sent along, there would need to be an intermediate HTTP step and redirect, which would be slower, and would defeat the point of secure search.
Here is the bug in Chromium where this was added: http://crbug.com/29920
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#14Technical reason: Referers aren't sent when transitioning from an SSL page to a non-SSL page - to get the referer sent along, there would need to be an intermediate HTTP step and redirect, which would be slower, and would defeat the point of secure search. Here is the bug in Chromium where this was added: http://crbug.com/29920
Thank you. This is what I came here to say.
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#15tl;dr: web analytics company starts claiming bullshit about privacy in search engines Also, in other news: some people start claiming bullshit about issues than are better for other people but bad for them. ps. I did upvote this post in HN just for the sake of discussion and comments, but I don't like the tone of the original poster with his 'HN hipsters' and 'BS' all around.
I meant no offense. I'm an HN hipster myself. I can see how it could be offensive, so I'll remove it. I really didn't mean anything by it though. I also wasn't expecting a HN post but within 30 minutes of hitting 'publish' it was the #1 story on HN, so... yeah.
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#17So,basically, this threatens his business so he rants about it. Fair enough be concerned for your business - but attacking DDG and Google for it is unlikely to win favours :P
That's certainly part of the reason, but I also have the POV of someone who runs many web sites, and I know how annoying it would be to lose search analytics. This is for the greater good of anyone who owns a site. Knowing what searches people are doing to get to your site is extremely important.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But any webmaster's power ends at the limits of their site. I guess that's it. User's rights are above webmaster's right. If you don't like them you can start disallowing search engines in your robots.txt or blocking users by referrer.
But search engines shouldn't block referrer by default. Majority of users don't care about telling web masters what they were searching for. So search engines should only let users who do care about privacy to block referrer, block it by default is a poor choice (unless you are DDG and privacy is your differentiator)
It's not Google or the search engines blocking the Referer, it is the browser. From RFC2616:
Clients SHOULD NOT include a Referer header field in a (non-secure) HTTP request if the referring page was transferred with a secure protocol.
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#19So,basically, this threatens his business so he rants about it. Fair enough be concerned for your business - but attacking DDG and Google for it is unlikely to win favours :P
That's certainly part of the reason, but I also have the POV of someone who runs many web sites, and I know how annoying it would be to lose search analytics. This is for the greater good of anyone who owns a site. Knowing what searches people are doing to get to your site is extremely important.
Unfortunately "what users want" always comes first.
And at the moment privacy is the buzzword.
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#20Proof that no matter what you do, some people will be unhappy about it.