Firefox is going to need a large UI overhaul before I even consider laying my eyes on it. It looks terrible compared to Chrome. Maybe if Mozilla would employ me, I could fix that.
It's very hard to stop Chrome's brand at this point.
Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#12As a long term Firefox user, the number of times I have to fire up Chrome because a site will not display correctly in Firefox grows month by month. :(
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#13People choose firefox over IE because firefox was better. People choose chrome over firefox and IE because chrome is better.
Want to beat google? create better. Not negativity.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#14I personally use Chrome and I teach a class that involves some lessons on HTTP/web scraping/web app dev and I ask the class to use Chrome. For me, my bias is towards how much I like Chrome's dev tools, though I haven't used Firefox's in awhile. The ease of creating multiple browser profiles is great, too, though I hear FF has the same thing.
I'm not much of a plugin user, but I'll be using Chrome's Secure Shell [0] for the first time ever and will be advising Windows students to use it over PuTTY (at first, anyway). It's kind of a lifesaver for me because PuTTY, from my experience a couple years ago, is a much more stilted experience than OS X Terminal. I see Firefox has FireSSH [1] and will give that a try, but the high user base of Chrome's Secure Shell (600K+) gives me a little assurance about the reliability of the plugin.
[0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell/pnhec...
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#15Maybe these other browsers should stop being complete shit and maybe I will. You want to know why people pick Google products? Because they work and they work well with each other. The only people that don't like Google are tech people that write stupid blogs like this. Sorry, but the general population doesn't give a fuck if Google does any of this. They just want products that work. They don't even give a fuck abou…
(shill alert: former Google and Mozilla employee)
"They just want products that work" sounds like an explanation of why people buy iPhones, because I don't know anyone who's had that experience with Google products (other than Chrome, I suppose).
It's so bad that I've stopped even considering giving a Google product to family. They quickly get fed up with the Android phone or Chromebook and replace it with something else, like an iPhone or a macbook or a windows laptop.
Personally, I've owned about 6 different Android devices, and all of them either stopped getting essential firmware updates, or broke of their own volition. Most recently my Nexus 5X randomly stopped working, and then the warranty replacement spontaneously corrupted its internal flash a week after I got it. In my experience, buying from Google directly is worse than buying from third parties.
Still not gonna buy an iPhone though, because I like being able to actually run free and open software on my phone.
P.S. are you going to argue that Safari is the only good browser and the others all suck, just because tons of people use Safari? The real answer is that Safari's market dominance is in large part due to the iPhone and iPod banning third-party browsers, aside from whether Safari is a good browser at all (at most, it's a decent one).
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#16Mostly past caring about Firefox. Just about every choice they've made since before Australis moves it further away from being what I'd like.
May as well just use Chrome at this point, rather than Chrome Lite.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#17OK Google is more powerful than ever before but eg. Google docs are not "winning" - docs are not forcing you to use blessed OSes (you can use docs from Firefox) and I'm still more afraid of Windows domination since it's still desktop where you create real content than Android which is basically dumb multimedia player and browser.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#18A viable Firefox-based Electron alternative would be very welcome.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#19Maybe these other browsers should stop being complete shit and maybe I will. You want to know why people pick Google products? Because they work and they work well with each other. The only people that don't like Google are tech people that write stupid blogs like this. Sorry, but the general population doesn't give a fuck if Google does any of this. They just want products that work. They don't even give a fuck abou…
And what people don't know can't hurt them, right?
More seriously, there is a battlefield on the web. Since the demise of Opera, Firefox is the only mainstream browser left standing that actively attempts to not violate your privacy.
This doesn't mean that Firefox developers don't need to work on ways to make Firefox the best browser – incidentally, Firefox in January 2017 is orders of magnitude better than Firefox in January 2016. But it also means that some of the most important of Firefox are invisible, because they're all about what Firefox refuses to do.
Caveat: I'm a contributor to Firefox.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#20Why not just say "Good Riddance?" From a pragmatic perspective, the fewer browsers we as developers need to support, the better. There has never been any meaningful standardization between browsers. Even "modern" browsers are all different enough that you need to test and code specific paths for each of them unless you stick to trivial things. Personally, I want the same thing I wanted back in 1996 when I started thi…
I'm sorry, but most of the good things that have happened with the browser are directly because there was competition. If one wins and the others disappear it's simply going to be too tempting for the winner to abuse it's position because nobody will have another choice.