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Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#4

(2014)

It's worse than the author even envisioned, we're seeing apps like notion and atomic be chrome only with no sign of Firefox support. So the exclusivity has extended beyond Google properties.

When you can't even use the browser it's very hard to keep marketshare.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#5
post #3

(2014)

Even more important today with a share of around ~70% instead of ~60% back then ( http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/ )

I'm not surprised with 70% for Chrome. Every Android phone comes with a Chrome browser. Too bad Mozilla mobile strategy didn't work. times and times again I said to whoever was in charge with the project :"Target hipsters, and hackers, not emergent economies and low hand devices, make it the phone for those who can afford a third one with good specs and are trend setters, or engineers, they'll develop cool shit for Firefox OS!", but no, they went with cheap and low end, ignoring the fact that a pure HTML/JS phone will perform worst than a phone that runs C apps and Java... People in third world countries don't give a f. about HTML/JS, they want their phone to run skype and whatsapp ...

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#6
Maybe these other browsers should stop being complete shit and maybe I will. You want to know why people pick Google products? Because they work and they work well with each other. The only people that don't like Google are tech people that write stupid blogs like this. Sorry, but the general population doesn't give a fuck if Google does any of this. They just want products that work. They don't even give a fuck about how much Google knows about them.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#7
I notice Firefox does not feel as responsive as Chrome is. On my reasonably powerful system, switching between tabs is slow, even slower when large photos load. It's holding me back.

I'm typing this from Vivaldi, because I'm constantly looking for a replacement that feels fast and I can have the few 4-5 extensions I typically use.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#8
At this point, it's not anymore about customer choice, the problem is systemic.

Serving Google with the same kind of antitrust Microsoft got would be highly deserved and beneficial, but unfurtunately google made the political investments that Microsoft lacked.

Which means we get to hear officials say Google is indeed in a situation deserving the antitrust, but it's fine "because their products bring value to customers"...

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#9
What about chromium browser? Google's tracking features are disabled there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Differe...

The author might argue that this is weak resistance because it's just adding fuel to Google's fire. They have co-opted the open source community by building their tools this way. I prefer this to the nearest alternative, which is a company that pushes closed software on the world.

IMO, the best alternative is a fully open ecosystem in which the players are very small relative to the overall size of the markets in which they operate. Such things don't last long on their own. We need to decide to support them as a community or they will be overwhelmed.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)

#10
Why not just say "Good Riddance?"

From a pragmatic perspective, the fewer browsers we as developers need to support, the better. There has never been any meaningful standardization between browsers. Even "modern" browsers are all different enough that you need to test and code specific paths for each of them unless you stick to trivial things.

Personally, I want the same thing I wanted back in 1996 when I started this ride: One browser to win, and the others to drop to such a tiny share that we don't need to support them anymore.

Firefox performed a service in convincing Microsoft to update IE6. But that was fifteen years ago. Since then, Chrome has arrived and demonstrated that it is far and away the best. In my opinion, Firefox would serve us best by simply stepping aside. All it does today is force us to code yet another path into everything we build.

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