I fail to see how this has anything to do with GitHub, except using GitHub as a hosting platform. Can somebody please change the title?
GitHub is part of the "todogroup".
GitHub Puts Open Code of Conduct on Pause
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#12I group "Code of Conduct" with Political Correctness.
For anyone interested in a good read on the subject, check out End of Discussion: How the Left's Outrage Industry Shuts Down Debate, Manipulates Voters, and Makes America Less Free (and Fun) by Mary Ham and Guy Benson.
It's an excellent read, and shouldn't be too much of a sting to the social outrage panderers out there.
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#13Looking through some of the issues on that repo, the amount of bad faith people have in the very idea of a code of conduct is astonishing. Not to mention the sheer ignorance of issues affecting minorities within the tech community (seriously, Jon Stewart could have had a weeks worth of material). Sure, the wording of the code of conduct wasn't perfect, but it'd be much nicer if people wanted to see it improved in goo…
It seems like a lot of people are just upset because they feel the CoC discriminates against them. You are harassed and have privileges ? I don't care, being harassed is still not fine whether you have privileges or not. Seems to sum up what most people are complaining about.
Yeah, I agree that a few sections were worded badly (the thing about reverse-isms isn't really needed, and just raises more questions than it answers). it's just that a lot of people don't seem to have the patience or the good faith to see these sorts of issues fixed.
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#14Looking through some of the issues on that repo, the amount of bad faith people have in the very idea of a code of conduct is astonishing. Not to mention the sheer ignorance of issues affecting minorities within the tech community (seriously, Jon Stewart could have had a weeks worth of material). Sure, the wording of the code of conduct wasn't perfect, but it'd be much nicer if people wanted to see it improved in goo…
It seems like the loudest voices are brand new accounts with some sort of anti-diversity agenda.
Re: GitHub Puts Open Code of Conduct on Pause
#15Looking through some of the issues on that repo, the amount of bad faith people have in the very idea of a code of conduct is astonishing. Not to mention the sheer ignorance of issues affecting minorities within the tech community (seriously, Jon Stewart could have had a weeks worth of material). Sure, the wording of the code of conduct wasn't perfect, but it'd be much nicer if people wanted to see it improved in goo…
It seems like a lot of people are just upset because they feel the CoC discriminates against them. You are harassed and have privileges ? I don't care, being harassed is still not fine whether you have privileges or not. Seems to sum up what most people are complaining about.
Well, it's ok to discriminate against people with Commit Privileges - they can just bypass the whole pull request system anyway.
Re: GitHub Puts Open Code of Conduct on Pause
#16Looking through some of the issues on that repo, the amount of bad faith people have in the very idea of a code of conduct is astonishing. Not to mention the sheer ignorance of issues affecting minorities within the tech community (seriously, Jon Stewart could have had a weeks worth of material). Sure, the wording of the code of conduct wasn't perfect, but it'd be much nicer if people wanted to see it improved in goo…
It seems like the loudest voices are brand new accounts with some sort of anti-diversity agenda.
There's what looks like an obviously fake account (lots of 0-star repos with nonsense names) who just started arguing in an issue that privelige doesn't exist and that people are only lazy. That really doesn't help at all, and I'm kinda surprised that it seems as though people are trying to reason with people like that.
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#17I fail to see how this has anything to do with GitHub, except using GitHub as a hosting platform. Can somebody please change the title?
Github recently adopted this Code of Conduct for all of their own-brand projects, and they were encouraging other open source projects to adopt it as well: https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-condu...
But the question is, are they also supporting/adopting this change/suspension? That's not clear from the linked post.
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#18For those confused, here is the actual code of conduct [1]
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#19I feel like an open code of conduct is unnecessary.
Really - the only thing you need to remember is - be nice to each other and be patient with those supplying advice and those who are asking for advice. (I have screenshots of discussions that violate this simple fundamental rule). I have flagged 40+ comments (that were accepted and acted upon) on stackoverflow alone of people just being stupid jerks.
The SVN people did a great presentation about how to protect your project from poisonous people [1]. Their story goes is that someone came on the SVN mailing list ranting about how SVN sucks and doesn't have the features he wanted - according to the talk the SVN community was polite and the guy just went away.
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#20That's the smartest thing they've done all week. Now it's time to bury it dead. This is a solution looking for a problem (tm).
The only thing this code of conduct does beside state the obvious (behave like adults) is the implied distrust expressed by introducing it in the first place: that without being nannied into proper behaviour, we would all act like vile animals.
Generally I find such nannying deeply offensive.